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Barnstorm
Feb 4th, 2005, 01:21am
Arrived from FishSupply yesterday. Fed him after work today, he chowed on a big (for him) shrimp.

A quick pic of my nano also. ;)

joel_ang
Feb 4th, 2005, 02:34am
Hi! Ziggy!! He looks cute, I'm assuming he's a bimac?

Nancy
Feb 4th, 2005, 02:48am
Welcome to Ziggy! He is a cute little guy. How big is he? - it's hard to tell from the pics.

Nice nano, too.

Nancy

corw314
Feb 4th, 2005, 06:54am
Congrats!! He's adorable and love the name!!! Please keep us updated lots!!!

Carol

Barnstorm
Feb 4th, 2005, 10:03am
Thanks!

Yes, Ziggy is a bimac. The tank was prepped and cycled for a cuttle but since they wont be available until mid-summer I thought I bimac would be a good choice.

My other bimac was wild-caught and a grown adult. This is the first time I have seen a baby. Cute little bugger.

With his arms pulled in he could easily sit on a dime with no over hang. With arms out it looks like he could hold the edges of a US silver dollar.

I watched him explore around and he seems much less cordinated and graceful then the adult bimac I had. I assume this 'grace' will come in time.

dbbga
Feb 5th, 2005, 08:12am
Very cute little Bimac, I bet Ziggy and Dottie are siblings :grin:

Barnstorm
Feb 5th, 2005, 12:54pm
dbbga,

Yes, what size is yours now?

Ziggy is very very small.

I am very glad he is eating as I thought he would be farther along.

He exhibits what seems to be odd behavior.

He does not spend much time in his caves. He even stays outside of his caves when I open the plastic cage and feed him. He just stays put and turns dark on me.

DHyslop
Feb 5th, 2005, 07:18pm
You are all evil. Making me look at all these beautiful pictures and stories of octopus pets before my tank is cycled.

EVIL!

Dan

Jean
Feb 5th, 2005, 08:01pm
Ziggy, is lovely!

J

Colin
Feb 6th, 2005, 04:57am
Welcome to Ziggy

Does this mean OctoPets are getting more officinalis in the Summer?

Barnstorm
Feb 6th, 2005, 02:22pm
Ok, now I have seen it all.

Ziggy still would rather hang on the side of the 'crib' then in his caves.

He has eaten a shrimp a day since I got him until yesterday.

Yesterday I put a nice little shrimp in his crib and he did not touch it. after a while the shrimp calmed down and would walk by Ziggy and he would just half-heartedly put out a tenticle out over the shrimp and that is it. It's like Ziggy and the shrimp are old pals or something?!?

I thought maybe he was not hungry. I checked on him today and the shrimp is still there! Both are just chilln like old pals!

I retested all the things you can test... temp, water, what is up? Just as I was starting to wonder if my new ROI setup was not up to snuff I decided to try a differn't food.

I found a wee tiny hermit crab and threw it the crib and ZAP he grabed the crab (shell and all) and took it into one of his caves. I guess he ate it.. He is now back out of the cave and hanging on his door step with the shrimp.

Go figgure...

chrono_war01
Feb 6th, 2005, 02:30pm
aw...nice. Just like Shark Tales where the shark gets to be friends with a prey.

DHyslop
Feb 8th, 2005, 02:00am
Barnstorm,

How do you keep the PVC from floating? Is there just enough sand in there to weigh them down or is there a little dab of silicon tacking them in place?

Dan

Barnstorm
Feb 8th, 2005, 03:45pm
Dan,

They don't float. They are just sitting there.

I am quite worried about Zig, he still has not eaten the shrimp. The hermit he took into the lair he tossed out yesterday and the body looks pretty intact. He took another one in today but no body yet.

I should be getting some baby clams in a day or so. Hopefully, he will eat those. All water conditions are good and all other life in the tank is doing well.

Nancy
Feb 8th, 2005, 05:00pm
Does Ziggy have any amphipods or anything else in the tank he could be eating? You might also try a small piece of frozen thawed shrimp.

He was raised on the clams and must like them, but they seem to be hard to keep. Hope they work!

Nancy

Barnstorm
Feb 8th, 2005, 09:28pm
Does Ziggy have any amphipods or anything else in the tank he could be eating? You might also try a small piece of frozen thawed shrimp.

He was raised on the clams and must like them, but they seem to be hard to keep. Hope they work!

Nancy

Nancy,

Me to! Thanks!!

I have a wee bit of live rock in the crib with him and a good bit of live rock in the aquarium but I am pretty sure that the pod population is low.

My live caught bimac was eating me out of house and aquarium after only a day or so up until old age set in.

Barnstorm
Feb 9th, 2005, 05:49pm
Clams are on the menu!

Baby clams arrived today (thanks octopets!) and when I dropped one in it hardly spent a second on the ground before it was grabbed and wisked away into Zig's den.

The shrimp is still in the crib and doing just fine...

3000gtman
Feb 10th, 2005, 01:09am
how is he with the anenomme and the clowns. i have a 150 gallon with lots of live rock and an anenomme and a clarki clown and some damsels. it is just fully cycled and all i need ot do is seal the top of the tank then i can get my octo. let me know about the anenomme please it would be a great help and people say they cant be kept with octos's you must have proved them wrong


greg

Nancy
Feb 10th, 2005, 12:46pm
If this is an anenome that stings, it's not good to put your octo in with it. The octos from octopets are tiny and would need to be protected by being in a special container for a while.

I guess Ziggy missed his baby food :smile: You might try buying a live clam or mussel, opening it and cutting a tiny piece for Zig and seeing whether he would take it. He can't eat baby clams forever.

Barnstorm, how are you keeping the baby clams?

Nancy

Barnstorm
Feb 10th, 2005, 11:43pm
Greg,

I snuck that reef photo in. That is not my octo tank. That is my nano-cube. The greatest reef tank setup I have ever worked with.

In the octo tank Ziggy is in a 'crib', a small plastic 'critter cage'. In the tank I have 1 damsel which is very mild mannered, 3 brittle stars (1 small, 2 baby stars), 1 peppermint shrimp, 1 sand-sifting star, 2 conch sand sifters, 1 chocolate chip star, 1 turbo snail, 1 small female fiddler crab and a small workforce of blue and red legged hermit crabs.

I have a couple of pieces of live rock that I hand-picked for there 'caves'.

The bottom of the tank is 2/3 fine reef sand and 1/3 fine crushed shells.

Lots of the tank livestock will become food for Ziggy once he outgrows his crib. I need them now to keep up the tank and give the biological filter a load.

In the nano-reef-tank I keep anemones but only because the clowns like em. They are a big pain and a risk to the tank. Also, they need light that I doubt the octo would be happy with.

My previous bimac left my damsel alone for the most part but I had one damsel that would try to push the octopus out of it's territory! If you have a good healthy anemone that is established I think you would be 'ok' but I would think it an unnecessary risk. Don't let the anemone tumble down on the octo's lair.

Do you have a new tank for the octopus? If so you could get it cycled up fast by using rock, sand, filter material, water changes and other stuff from your cycled 150. It is expensive but I am a BIG fan of Fritzime. It is the only product that delivers what so many other flim-flamers promise.

Otherwise, get a plastic cage to put in your tank for a crib and see how it goes.

Nancy,

Thanks!

I am keeping the clams in a 2.5 gallon glass aquarium right now. I plan on putting the whole 2.5 gal in my 75 gallon. I will keep glass lid on so I can feed the clams snow without it dispersing in the tank. Someday I will let him sneak into the clam tank and have his pick.

He seems to have a hard time opening the clams so I cracked the shells of two today and gave them to him.

3000gtman
Feb 11th, 2005, 02:54pm
the anenomme has been in the tank for about a month and it has nt moved places other tha the first day . now it seems to be in one spot. i think i might try the smaller tank inside my 150 until the octo gets bigger. the salinity is 1.026 ph is 8.2 and the ammonia is at .1 or .05 almost nothing. i know i have to wait about another 2weeks before i get an octo but i was asking if the anenomme will be ok. well let me know thanx.

greg

Barnstorm
Feb 11th, 2005, 03:46pm
My gut reaction is that it would be fine.

Cephkid
Feb 11th, 2005, 04:02pm
ERK! STINGING CNIDARIANS= NO-NO! Octos have very sensitive skin, and even a small anemone can do damage. Besides, anemones are very hard to care for.

WARNING: ECO-SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT COMMENCING.

Personally, however, I am against keeping anemones at all, as many are wild-caught and die in tanks, and as they can live for hundreds-maybe over a thousand-years, you never know how old the animal is. Keeping a seven century old creature doesn't seem quite right.

ECO-SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT ENDED.

Barnstorm
Feb 12th, 2005, 04:18am
Cephkid,

agreed. and all true.

He however already has the anemone and if it has stablized well the only two big things to worry about are the anemone dying or the octopus getting stung too badly.

Though it does happen, most critters know to steer clear or learn after only a minor sting.

It can be hard to find captive-raised anemones but they are worth the effort.

Phil
Feb 12th, 2005, 04:29am
Lovely octopus, Barnstorm. I hope you really enjoy his company!

Phil