View Full Version : Hey guys I finally got Dr. Octavius in ,has nice home 240 g
marinerules Dec 20th, 2004, 12:48pm im so excited let me start by saying that he is going in a 240 gallon tank that has been cycling for 4 months, , and every parameter is correct.
however Its going to be very difficult to catch two yellow tangs and 4 damsels, and a shrimp
I also do not have a sump yet, I have my skimmer, bu its just sitting in the tank and I dont want it to suck the octo up , so I think it can manage in this big of a tank for 2-3 weeks without a skimmer until I get my pump for my sump, lol , which i was thinking about a amp master 3000 , unless someone can sgtire me in a better direction
say if i wasnt able to catch a damel or two , or even my tangs
THEY THEMSELVES wont kill the octopus woudl they , I mean , I know that they would eventually be lunch , but im definatly not wanting it the other way around
ant Dec 20th, 2004, 02:28pm WOW! huge tank. You dont have to worry about the damsels. They wont hurt the octo if you keep them in.But he WILL eat them. Not sure about the tangs. Im not that experienced with pumps either :|
marinerules Dec 20th, 2004, 04:33pm you dont have a sump?
what about a protein skimmer ?
when my water gets stireed its gets a little brown and stinky
but i think its diatoms
because i have checked my nitrate , nitrite, and ammonia and all are 0
corw314 Dec 20th, 2004, 04:49pm Wow! That's a huge tank!!! Damsels can be a problem especially for a young baby like you're getting. Think it's been known for them to pick at the octos eyes. Simple would be to set up something inside the tank for the time being. Think there's pics on site when Lil P arrived.
Carol
marinerules Dec 20th, 2004, 05:02pm well i have a protein skimmer in teh tank
its just he could get sucked up the intake on the water pump that feeds the skimmer
i guess i could take soemthign like panty hose or something , im not sure ???
Nancy Dec 20th, 2004, 06:22pm Yes, cover all intakes with some sort of net - the kind used in the little bags for carbon, the kind used in fish nets, even the kind some veggies come in. We have had little bimacs get sucked in before.
You can use rubber bands or other sorts of ties (no metal) to fasten the netting.
Nancy
marinerules Dec 20th, 2004, 10:17pm im not sure what time he will be here
i ordered some crabs and snails once fedex overnight and they got here before 10::30 but octopets sent it DHL , and I dont know if they have a "arrive before so and so time" policy
i could wait all day on it .
and i hope I dont have to do that
marinerules Dec 21st, 2004, 01:55pm i am acclimating him right now , his mantle is a little bigger than a quarter and his 2 inch legs lol
he inked just a bit in the bad , but its not real blacok water still looks clear
anyways, im just hoping he doestn escape i have every hole and any wat to get out covered except by the filter which i cant make escape proof
unless i have some astroturf or somethign i can find
marinerules Dec 21st, 2004, 05:44pm i have a really good picture of him , but its too big to post i think
anyways , he wondered around for about 20 minutes, and he hate 3 nassarius snails , but now hes under a rock and not moving and hes been that way for about 4 hours
i hope something isnt wrong with him
corw314 Dec 21st, 2004, 06:49pm Don't panic! They rest after their trip. Sometimes they don't come out for a week, especially if there's plenty of food in the tank. You can reduce your picture in your photo software to 1000 and it will post. Usually theres a resize option.
Glad he made it ok!
Carol
Nancy Dec 21st, 2004, 09:04pm Octos don't move around the tank all the time, and after such a long trip, I'd think your octo would be tired. They remain still in one place for defensive reasons - it's hard for an enemy to spot them. You may have trouble spotting him because he can make himself look so much like the live rock.
Nancy
marinerules Dec 21st, 2004, 09:40pm ive got to come up with a name,
my sis
im 20 , she is 10
sjhe wants to name him squidward
adn I want to call him doc octavius lol
anyways i just got home here at 8 p.m and I still cant find the little guy
I JUST HOPE HE hasnt escaped or anything , there is no way for me to make my tank escape proof where the filter is, everywhere else is fien , but not there
I did notice him eating a cojple hermit crabs and 2 nassarius snails , cause i saw him gliding on the glass and he had the shell under his legs
but that was when i first got him
so far no sign
i hope he at least comes out a little tommorow
Nancy Dec 21st, 2004, 09:49pm Why can't you make your tank escapeproof around your filter?
Nancy
marinerules Dec 21st, 2004, 10:08pm cause its a hang on emperor 400 filter
there is no way to get all the crevices ect cover, wihtout it looking absolutionly junky
I have two big pieces of glass covering the top utnil it gets to the filter and the reason i have glass insstead of say perhaps screen is so the water fromt he bubbles dont ruin my lights
i mean its better to have it sealed and I REALIZE this
but isnt this species the so called less prone to want to escape ?
I found him by the way , he was right in front of me blended 100 percent into the rock
here is a picture of him
cthulhu77 Dec 21st, 2004, 10:28pm Well, you can do a lot of things with some hot glue or duct tape, and a little bit of screening, (nylon, of course) to make it look "not junky"...better than worrying all of the time about an escaping octo!
It might ruin your digestion, after all !!!! :D
marinerules Dec 21st, 2004, 10:31pm is there a place u can buy a maybe 3 foot wide by 9 foot roll of some type of screen then ?
imean i dont want to go buy a screen door and just use the screen haha
I would do this if I coudl find the screen somwhere
the two glass pieces i have on the tank , cover all but the back 4 inches of the aquarium , so i can screen that in , , and then I only have the filter part to worry about
and when i get my overflows and my sjmp set up
i am some how going to have to come up with somethign to glue or something on my glass overflows to keep the octo out of the overflows
when i bought my tank , it came with the overflows, but not teeth
maybe i coudl use screen on it to or something
cthulhu77 Dec 21st, 2004, 10:34pm Home Depot, Lowes, Ace Hardware, etc all sell nylon screening by the roll...it will probably set you back about 4 or 5 dollars...you can attach it to the glass or plastic with duct tape, or hot glue...don't use silicone, as your tank has already got an occupant, and the outgassing is toxic!!!
good luck on your mission, if you choose to accept it...this message will self destruct in 5 minutes...
marinerules Dec 21st, 2004, 10:47pm ok , i have a ace hardware real close
Ill go and ask about it tommorow and get hot glue , or soemthing
I think I can get it to where it will work really well
I could even do this to my overflows
im worried about him gettin gout tonight though
, hopefully he wont , he hasnt moved very much today
did u see the picture that I posted of him
I hope he grows fast, cause in this 240 , its hard to spot him , even when he is out
cthulhu77 Dec 21st, 2004, 11:10pm it was a very nice picture...and you were right in stating that bimacs aren't too prone to venturing out above water (perhaps due to the habitat...more gulls than a convention there), but to be safe, I would recommend fastening some nylon screen to the exposed areas...
good luck !!!! I am sure it will work out just fine...
greg
Nancy Dec 22nd, 2004, 12:39am Yes, bimacs are less prone to escape. However, another case of a bimac escaping and perishing was reported to me this week. That makes four that I know of.
Be creative and you'll find lots of ways to cover your spaces. I used netting and ductape and kept a roll of fresh ductape right by the tank so I could easily replace any piece that was getting damp. I put some fresh pieces on every night. You can't use the ductape underwater or where it gets wet, but you usually can find a workaround.
Nancy
corw314 Dec 22nd, 2004, 06:03am He's beautiful!!! Makes me want another bimac!!!!!! :mrgreen:
Carol
marinerules Dec 22nd, 2004, 11:29am i saw him this morning in a different spot, but he doesnt move, the only movement he has is him breathing
I know weveryone says its normal ,but I am still worried lol
I did notice him eating a few crabs and stuff though when I firt put him in and I guess thatts a good sign , becasue I have heard that some people's octos wont eat for like 2 weeks
oh and another reason I may not be seeing him crawl around is because I didnt catch all the crabs and snails out of there before he came in , so he may be doing his eating when I am not lookin g
Nancy Dec 22nd, 2004, 11:47am Your octopus is being quite normal. He's keeing himself hidden to make sure nothing finds and eats him! He doesn't realize that he's safe now.
Not a bad idea to have a bit of live food in the tank, either.
Nancy
marinerules Dec 22nd, 2004, 12:01pm well he has that
about 60 or so hermits and 30 snails, and hes got 3 damsels to eat whenever he gets ready
and i think there are 2 emerald crabs isn there as well
marinerules Dec 22nd, 2004, 01:39pm hey again guys
hm ,
when i get this nylon netting in
I got told to glue it down
what is the best kidn of glue ?
JUST ANY KIND??
or do i need to get hot glue , like the glue you put in the guns and squeen it out , ?
whatever it is , I want it to be stron , cause im going to rig my overflow boxes with this netting so the octopus cant get sucked down into the sump
cthulhu77 Dec 22nd, 2004, 03:18pm You might want to try the mentioned duct tape instead of hot glue at first...it is easier to figure out how you want the whole thing to work...and it is easily replaceable!!!
greg
marinerules Dec 22nd, 2004, 06:49pm no sight of him today , im dissapointed i was really wanting to at least know he was in still in there
marinerules Dec 25th, 2004, 11:11am today is the 4th day ive had him and now he doesnt hide everytime i walk in , but he stays in the same spot , he is eating at night,
i noticed today that there are two emerald crab claws laying on the ground with the rest of the crab missing , so HE IS EATING. which im excited about becasue , i hear some peoples new octos dont eat for two weeks.
im trying to get my sump and everything hooked up asap , and my skimmer
but im n ot really worried about it now as he is young and little, because i had three messy tangs, and 8 other fish in there with no skimmer and my nitrates and everything read 0
cthulhu77 Dec 25th, 2004, 11:13am Glad that all is going well, but yes, get that skimmer hooked up ! One ink and you can crash a system!!
Merry Christmas!
greg
marinerules Dec 25th, 2004, 11:25am one little bitty ink in that huge 240 can crash a system?
i can put my skimmer in the tank , but im worried about him getting sucked in the intake
cthulhu77 Dec 25th, 2004, 12:07pm I thought the skimmer was going in the sump???will have to re read this bit...
the chances of a full blown crash are small, but better safe than sorry...I have seen tanks larger than yours crash in the space of half an hour, while everyone watched in horror...amazing, really...
greg
marinerules Dec 25th, 2004, 02:26pm it is going in the sump
but I dotn know how to plumb and Im not sure how im going to make my overflows to where he cant get in them, cause i dont have bulid in teeth , they are just glass overflows with nothing on them
so I stuck the skimmer in the tank,
i dont think its that hideous looking
he doesnt seem to mind., plus it puts more oxygen in teh water correct ?
thats a big plus
Colin Dec 27th, 2004, 05:32am hows things now?
marinerules Dec 27th, 2004, 11:19am he reached out for a crawdad yestrerday but it swam away, he didnt get enough of a suction on it ,
i didnt see him eat the other two , and may not have , they were laying on the sand dead, it looked like their stomachs were eatan ,
do they not eat the whole thing?
if they do eat the whole thing , its likely that my snails ate them when they died.
ILl take soem more pictures tonight if everyone will come back and look
oh, also, he sstill doesnt venture around and crawl eveywhere ive had him i think over a week now
Nancy Dec 27th, 2004, 11:53am They don't eat the shell and sometimes they leave other parts, too.
So you have plenty to clean up after a crawfish!
As for not moving around a lot, give him a little more time.
Nancy
marinerules Dec 27th, 2004, 02:11pm i just have been reading everywhere where others are crawling around after about 4 or 5 days and mine doesn tdo that , but it could be casue he has such a big tank to look out for enemies for
Nancy Dec 27th, 2004, 06:31pm Bear in mind that octopuses have different personalities - maybe yours isn't ready to come out on his own much yet.
Nancy
Colin Dec 28th, 2004, 04:29pm also, its worth taking out uneaten food and the shells too as leaving shells of crustaeceans can increase phosphates
marinerules Dec 29th, 2004, 09:02am really , how does it do that
im not even sure what my phosphatea re to be honestl
thats one parameter i dint have test for ,
though she is fine and has been for a week and a half
marinerules Jan 1st, 2005, 03:45pm ok im dissapointed, this octo is the most boring thing I have ever put in my tank
corw314 Jan 1st, 2005, 07:25pm How long have you had him now? It was a baby from Octopets right? Didn't you say you have damsels still in the tank? Maybe he's threatened by them. Or maybe he's too well fed! Mine started coming out when the food was all eaten and then he started to associate me as the food God!!! I just looked back and he's been with you a little over a week. Patience!!!! He'll come around!
Colin Jan 2nd, 2005, 05:34am instant gratification? Dont buy an octopus...
marinerules Jan 2nd, 2005, 11:42am hehe , im a big fan of instant gratification , anyways yes i guess I will have to wait for the food to be eating cause he still has a very very well good source of it
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