View Full Version : Salt....


Naomi&Joe
Nov 17th, 2004, 02:28pm
Is there a preferred type/brand of salt that we should be buying? We are using Tropic Marin which states it includes all 70 trace elements found in natural seawater. Is this ok?

know-it-all
Nov 17th, 2004, 02:38pm
I will start out by saying I'm no expert with salt
I only go by how my corals react .

IMO, almost any quality salt works as good as any other quality salt.

I often change to what brand is on sale for my reef tank.
I've only noticed a problem with 2 brands,
I think one was Oceanic, (comes in blue buckets)
I had cyano growing after the switch for 2-3 weeks
the other was some POS salt that had ammonia after mixed.

I personaly have had no problem with
Instant Ocean
Coralife
Tropic Marin
and
Reef crystals

Hope that helps

Naomi&Joe
Nov 17th, 2004, 06:11pm
cheers know-it-all

just nice to know that there is nothing terrible we should know....

fluffysquid
Nov 17th, 2004, 09:07pm
At the fish store i work at, we have good success with Red Sea, and have had bad reactions from corals to Oceanic.

Andy Lister
Nov 18th, 2004, 06:02am
Red Sea, Instant Ocean and Tropic Marin are all pretty good.

Just worth checking the pH and hardness when you make them up though

cthulhu77
Nov 18th, 2004, 08:26am
Having used Red Sea and Instant Ocean for quite a while, I am now a firm Tropic Marin addict...mixes faster, smoother, and seems more stable...my favorite!
greg

Steve O'Shea
Nov 22nd, 2004, 07:34pm
Real interesting thread this!!

I was just reviewing one of Jason's (aka squidviscious) reports here and stumbled upon this.

Apparently 'Instant Ocean' seawater lacked the element Strontium; in the absence of which proper development of the statolith in cephalopods was prevented. The squid were referred to as 'spinning cephalopods', as balance in the water column was not possible, and they were unable to capture food, in addition to having abnormal embryo development (Hanlon 1990).

Now I'm not familiar with these artificial salts, and 1990 was a few years ago and the problem may well have been remedied by now, but if anyone has a packet of this 'Instant Ocean' I'd be quite interested in finding out whether Strontium is identified as one of the trace elements.

Jason's ref is (so I hope he has these details correct!!):
Hanlon, R.T. 1990. Maintenance, rearing and culture of teuthoid and sepioid squids. Pp 35-62 in 'Squid as experimental animals'. Gilbert, D.L.; Adelman, W.J.; Arnold, J. (Eds). New York, Plenum Press.

Jean
Nov 22nd, 2004, 09:33pm
We've got some instant ocean kicking around somewhere (we use it for high school groups wanting to do salinity experiments) will go look and report back !

Cheers

J

Nancy
Nov 22nd, 2004, 11:48pm
Here's an interesting link for analysis of salt water. The poll shows that over 50% of people responding used Instant Ocean. (I've always used Kent myself) Anyway, there are tables comparing the various mixes.
and links to articles and other discussions.

http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/seasaltmixes/l/aa090503b.htm

It would appear from the table that Instant Ocean contains a high amount of strontium now.

Although I've never followed the discussions too closely, I've noticed that some mixes may require the addition of other elements, and some are supposed to replicate seawater.

Nancy

Jean
Nov 23rd, 2004, 06:57pm
went and had a squiz as promised........no contents listed on the box!!!! Just as well Nancy found the contents list elsewhere!! BTW if you use it seal the container! ours has turned to liquid on top and solid on bottom....we forgot to reseal the packet properly :oops:

J

Colin
Nov 24th, 2004, 05:11am
Tropic Marin is the one that i have stuck with for years now.

corw314
Nov 24th, 2004, 05:36am
Tropic Marin is my choice also!!!

Nancy
Nov 24th, 2004, 01:39pm
If you look at the poll (around 4000 people responded), it shows over 50% using Instand Ocean, and the rest dispersed over a number of brands. I think some of it may depend on what the LFSs are carrying locally. I would have to order Tropic Marin over the internet, unless some far off LFS carries it.

Nancy

cthulhu77
Nov 24th, 2004, 03:10pm
Hmm. the store I buy from specializes in reef setups, and they mostly carry Tropic Marin...and that is all they use in their tanks too. (good selling point). Perhaps you could talk your lfs's into carrying it? Once you use it, it is hard to go back to red sea or instant ocean...the mixing alone is amazing!!!!!
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