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cthulhu77 Oct 9th, 2004, 11:24am For those of you that are interested, I have a opportunity to show all of the steps taken in doing an illustration...received an email with a request, then drew up some ideas for the colour illustration, "the octopus and the tree"...
http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=3408
cthulhu77 Oct 9th, 2004, 11:28am This morning, I talked to the client, and decided to go with something less formal in structure, with a little more "grab" (pardon the pun) and did a pencil outline of the piece...(note: my wife just walked into the studio and asked why the octopus is hanging from the tree..."wouldn't it die?" :roll: )
http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=3409
Octomush Oct 9th, 2004, 12:54pm Very cool! But I Think that u should make the octo becoming the tree! Now that would be cool! And then make the tree green like asprout and where the octo starts turning into the tree or sumthin make im green to! Just a suggestion! Ur work is great! :P
PS: Ur client is stupid and knows nothing of art! Ur first one was da bomb!
cthulhu77 Oct 9th, 2004, 01:32pm I'll take it under advisement... :D
Started blocking out the colours...many layers of pigment to create a feeling of depth...
http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=3414
Octomush Oct 9th, 2004, 04:54pm pffffff! lousy clinging octo!
Jean Oct 9th, 2004, 06:05pm It's very interesting to see the artistic process. I use a similar technique for my bead weavings! I play with sketches and colours then when I get a design I like I transfer to a grid..select my beads and off I go!
J
Snafflehound Oct 10th, 2004, 01:45am You should make the tree a conifer, as it's only the Pacific Tree Octopus that is known to be a tree climber. Art must be scientifically accurate to please the public :P
joel_ang Oct 10th, 2004, 03:11am I love those drawings, you're pretty good at this sketching stuff. I like the second one best :) . Are ya gonna carve this image into something or just a painting? I must say your client certainly has interesting taste :)
If only Pacific Tree Octo's were real :roll: ... but why name it pacific if its in the middle of a forest? Yet another flaw in the PTO story...
CarlS Oct 10th, 2004, 07:16am Nice line work, and I like the muted complementary color scheme 8)
Is this illustration going to be used as part of a story, or is it just a standalone piece? Either way, it would work well :)
--Carl
cthulhu77 Oct 10th, 2004, 10:14am It is a piece to complement a bit of prose written by the client...I'm not sure if it is going to be in a book of shorts or not...glad you like it!!
I finished off the glaze washes this morning, once they dry, it will be time for the pen and ink lining!
http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=3422
cthulhu77 Oct 10th, 2004, 12:40pm 1st inking is done...time to wait for a bit, remove all of the pencil lines, and send a proof off to see what colours they want in the tree and octo...
http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=3425
Nancy Oct 10th, 2004, 01:47pm Thank you very much for letting us see the whole process in creating this wonder octopus illustration.
I'm interested in the size of the sketches and final drawing, paper used, and the washes - are theycolored ink or watercolor?
You're very talented!
Nancy
lifetrance Oct 10th, 2004, 04:04pm Wow, very impressive :notworth:
Would love to get a higher-resolution shot of the final product, so I can print it out or use it for my desktop picture =)
I'm still waiting for Dr. O'Shea's squid sketch on a T-shirt!
-Brandon
NickA5582 Oct 10th, 2004, 06:27pm 8) :thumbsup:
Jean Oct 10th, 2004, 08:07pm I'm still waiting for Dr. O'Shea's squid sketch on a T-shirt!
-Brandon
Me too!
J
cthulhu77 Oct 11th, 2004, 11:35am Nancy...this is a fairly small piece...only 12x16 inches, on illustration board, using aniline dyes, windsor newton watercolours, and good ol india ink...no stops are used, prefer to do all lining with a brush...(good number 000 sable)
started colouring in the front bits, tree and octo...still unsure about what colour for the ceph (all the way from a blue ring to a red )...had to tint the octo slightly red anyway to take a bit of the "bite" away from the fruit...
http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=3435
I will ask about the use of the image for screen savers...not sure about the print though...might be a bit of a conflict, as all my work is copywritten...will check on it!
greg
CarlS Oct 11th, 2004, 12:57pm The image as it exists right now would make a very attractive poster. :)
BTW, the gray rock formations in the background? I just noticed that the third from the left resembles one of the giant stone statues from Easter Island. 8)
Is that just a happy coincidence, or is that part of the underlying story?
--Carl
http://protask.nl.eu.org/~dennis/emoticons/div34.gif
Melissa Oct 11th, 2004, 05:41pm The whole process is wonderful to see. Thanks for showing us the steps of your craft. I can't begin to fathom the brushwork with India ink - everything I do is changeable - this is what computers do well - so something in which a mistake would be the end is far out of my depth! Awesome.
Melissa
joel_ang Oct 11th, 2004, 10:53pm The image is looking great, dull bimac eyespots for the octo?
Jean Oct 11th, 2004, 11:27pm Cthulhu 77 do you ever use camel brushes???? or drawing pens (dip or fibre???)
J
cthulhu77 Oct 12th, 2004, 08:08am Jean, I've always found sable to be a better vehicle for watercolour, though my brother likes camel hair, and he uses the same brands...personal choice, I guess...and yep, I use a variety of pens, from good ol quills to rotrings...(me in an art store with money is scary...)
funny bit: Shanlyn just found out that the brushes are made from sables that are killed...she thought they shaved them ! Can you imagine shaving a weasel??? (note: wonder if they could use nair?)
WN has a good line of brushes, the newest ones are Utrecht...a sable blend, probably sable and camel.
cthulhu77 Oct 12th, 2004, 10:32am Out for the final screen shot today...
http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=3442
Jean Oct 12th, 2004, 07:13pm Jean, I've always found sable to be a better vehicle for watercolour, though my brother likes camel hair, and he uses the same brands...personal choice, I guess...and yep, I use a variety of pens, from good ol quills to rotrings...(me in an art store with money is scary...)
funny bit: Shanlyn just found out that the brushes are made from sables that are killed...she thought they shaved them ! Can you imagine shaving a weasel??? (note: wonder if they could use nair?)
WN has a good line of brushes, the newest ones are Utrecht...a sable blend, probably sable and camel.
Thanks......I'm a student so budget is a consideration!!! I used to use rotrings but the nibs died and no one is importing them into NZ any more. I'm now using staedtler mars professional in various sizes. They seem to be a good substitute!!
J
corw314 Oct 12th, 2004, 07:23pm :notworth: Very nice!!! How did I miss this? Quite a talent you've got there and I must say I am envious!!!! Fascinating to see the whole process from an idea to the finished peice!
Carol
cthulhu77 Oct 12th, 2004, 07:35pm Thanks Carol! Yeah, I am pretty happy with it also...may end up doing a kid's room with a similar mural now...that would be fun.
Jean, Mars are great pens...a little more fussy about cleaning though...you may need to get a vibrating cleaner...(I don't have one, but my brother swears by them) You might want to try Sakura graphic disposables too...they are available in archival grade ink in all of the sizes...saves on the clogging issue!!!!
greg
cthulhu77 Oct 12th, 2004, 08:16pm This is the bit of prose my brother is hand lettering to go next to the illo:
" At the great beginning of Time, there was a great tree, Tane, and his roots drank from the world and his branches held up the sky.
But mischievous creatures from the void stole his leaves, leaving him cold and hungry.
They hoped that he would fall down, and then the world would end, so that they could have all the earth to themselves.
The Father looked down, and saw all of this happen. So, he called out to one of his daughters, Rapani, who dwelled in Te Kore Nui, to come and guard the tree of the world.
She swam and swam, and arrived just in time, for only one fruit was left. All of the evil people were frightened away by her waving arms and angry demeanour.
Eventually, the fruit will fall, Tane will crack, and the world will end, so that Rapani can return to the void, but that fruit will grow into a new tree, and a new world.
And, it will need a new guardian."
Jean Oct 13th, 2004, 08:27pm Jean, Mars are great pens...a little more fussy about cleaning though...you may need to get a vibrating cleaner...(I don't have one, but my brother swears by them) You might want to try Sakura graphic disposables too...they are available in archival grade ink in all of the sizes...saves on the clogging issue!!!!
greg
thanks for that....so far so good re the cleaning. they don't seem to clog much. I took Steve's advice and I've been using velum for my drawings .......much better (ta Steve :notworth: )
J
cthulhu77 Oct 13th, 2004, 09:00pm oh yeah...less cotton, more hard surface. Do you like illo board as well? (Vellum is hard to move pigment on...)
Jean Oct 14th, 2004, 04:29pm oh yeah...less cotton, more hard surface. Do you like illo board as well? (Vellum is hard to move pigment on...)
Never tried it...don't know what it is!!!!!
J
cthulhu77 Oct 16th, 2004, 11:33am strathmore makes a really nice series of illustration boards...cold (smooth) and hot press (rough) that work well for pen and ink...the cold gives you more detail, but won't hold pigment too well (have to use a fixative).
One of my favorite surfaces, next to canvas and rice paper...
greg
OctoPussyAZ May 21st, 2008, 01:54pm I took a stab at illustrating Greg's story -- my idea was to hint at a woman's face in the tentacles...
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u162/kitflubber/Te%20Kore%20Nui/TeKoreNuiStory.jpg[/IMG]
Jean May 21st, 2008, 05:07pm Very nice!
Jean May 21st, 2008, 05:14pm strathmore makes a really nice series of illustration boards...cold (smooth) and hot press (rough) that work well for pen and ink...the cold gives you more detail, but won't hold pigment too well (have to use a fixative).
One of my favorite surfaces, next to canvas and rice paper...
greg
Gotcha. No I haven't tried those. I'm now using Daler -Rowney Layout paper or Canson acid free tracing vellum....both work really well depending on what I want!
I just bought some faber-castel artist pens which have nibs rather like paintbrushes they come in 3 sets, shades of grey (which I bought), shades of terracotta and colours, lots of fun!
J
Crazy_Gal May 21st, 2008, 08:00pm Nice pictures! They're pretty cool.
To Octomush: nice signature.
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