View Full Version : [Deep-sea food webs] Xray goodness


TPOTH
Sep 30th, 2004, 12:09am
Disclaimer: No ceph content. Apologies in advance. :oshea: made me post this :lol:

So thanks to Master O's galaxy of contacts we have managed to get a few fishes to an X-ray machine. Suffice to say that I'm blown away...really...

We got Xrays for two spiky oreos (Neocyttus rhomboidalis).

http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=3354

One (spiky1.jpg), above, did show a rather large scar (almost guaranteed to be a predator attack which the fish did survive) on its pre-dorsal profile but said scar doesn't seem to have left any permanent "record" onto the bone structure. However we were told that this oreo got its back/spine broken at some point and survived that too. Upon playing with the contrast (and other Photoshop whatchamacallits), other "interesting" things appear which leave us rather baffled. Damage (and, i believe, healing) in areas (thin arrows) surrounding the compressed vertebrae (larger arrow).

http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=3353

For comparison, spiky2.jpg (above) doesn't show that kind of damage.

Also spine.jpg (below) shows a close-up of the spine areas for both oreo (spiky1 on top and spiky2 below).

http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=3352

More to follow, stay tuned....

TPOTH

Steve O'Shea
Sep 30th, 2004, 12:26am
Mightily impressed I am!! I hope you all don't mind this slight non-ceph digression. It will become ceph-oriented in no time, once the stomach contents of these fish start getting analysed, especially the Orange Roughy.

There's method in our madness. Who wants to see more???

CarlS
Sep 30th, 2004, 03:56am
Very interesting. I wouldn't mind seeing a whole series of these :)

--Carl - whose back problems makes him empathize with spiky1 :?
:onycho:

Infusoria
Sep 30th, 2004, 06:02am
Here's an orange roughy (Hoplostethus atlanticus) in this picture you can clearly see the otoliths and swimbladder. This is an immature fish of about 20cm.

These are a couple of dodgy shots from my dodgy digital camera. The resolution of this is pretty crap. It will be interesting once we've had all the x-rays scanned and I've enhanced them a bit.


Interesting how dense the roughy flesh is.


http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/files/roughy01.jpg

http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/files/roughy02.jpg

Infusoria
Sep 30th, 2004, 07:38am
These have been enhanced in Photoshop CS. Obviously this the same image as above, I've just tried to enhance as best I can from the original digital shot. Thanks again to Steve making this possible. :notworth:

http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/files/roughy04.jpg

http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/files/roughy03.jpg

You know this marine biology thing is much more fun/interesting/cooler than making brochures about molded cupboard doors... :P

Nancy
Oct 1st, 2004, 12:43pm
Hey, these are really interesting! Keep them coming.

Nancy

TPOTH
Oct 2nd, 2004, 01:10am
Hey, these are really interesting! Keep them coming.

Yes ma'am!
We aim to please :)

TPOTH

Jean
Oct 2nd, 2004, 11:34pm
moremoremoremoremore

J