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Andy Lister
Sep 9th, 2004, 01:49pm
Hello all, sorry to be a bugger with this and have to ask all you cephy people but I'm about to do TV and Radio interviews about why Smoothound (Mustellus asterias) populations have gone down and will be saying that it is probably down to more destructive fishing methods taking cxrabs, scallops and whelks...

are there any other examples of benthic, invert feeding sharks losing numbers anywhere else in the world??

Anyone know of any smoothounds captive bred recently????

Anyhoo, thanks in advance!

~Andy

Infusoria
Sep 12th, 2004, 07:29am
Hello all, sorry to be a bugger with this and have to ask all you cephy people but I'm about to do TV and Radio interviews about why Smoothound (Mustellus asterias) populations have gone down and will be saying that it is probably down to more destructive fishing methods taking cxrabs, scallops and whelks...

are there any other examples of benthic, invert feeding sharks losing numbers anywhere else in the world??

Anyone know of any smoothounds captive bred recently????

Anyhoo, thanks in advance!

~Andy

I can probably help you there what kind of info are taking about, just quotes or actual papers?

I've got a review paper that mentions something regarding the decline in biomass of the 10 most common bycatch species in orange roughy fisheries. One of them's probably a dogfish of some kind. It's in the office so I won't be able to check till tomorrow.

I think I might have something from Australia as well... but I can probably get cream for that :P

cthulhu77
Sep 12th, 2004, 08:39am
I didn't know smoothounds had ever been bred in captivity...I have heard of some horn sharks producing, but even that, rarely...would be a cool sight to see!

Infusoria
Sep 13th, 2004, 09:08am
Hi

This comes from: The effects of commercial exploitation on orange roughy (Hoplostethus atlanticus) from the continental slope of the Chatham Rise, New Zealand, from 1979 to 1997.

Malcolm R. Clark, Owen F. Anderson, R.I.C. Chris Francis, Dianne M. Tracey

Fisheries Research 45 (2000) 217-238

Baxter's dogfish Etmopterus baxteri Biomass estimated in 1984:770t. Fraction of said biomass in 1994: 0.26

Pale ghost shark Hydrolagus sp. Biomass estimated in 1984: 470t. Fraction of said biomass in 1994: 0.16

Please note this data is ten years old now and I've left out a lot here. I hope this is of some use. These are only intended as sound-bites.

TPOTH
Sep 13th, 2004, 07:41pm
I think I might have something from Australia as well... but I can probably get cream for that :P

:roflmao:

Back on topic... in general all shark populations are decreasing (general trend for anything marine really). Benthic feeding species are especially at risk if in areas of bottom trawling as they aren't very fast swimmers and can't escape the net. What's worse is that, should they be taken as bycatch, they generally don't make back to the sea in good shape as shark fins go for a pretty penny those days.

As Matt said, depends if you're after papers or quotes (or soundbites as Master O would put it)... and how discerning is your audience supposed to be ;)

TPOTH

Andy Lister
Sep 14th, 2004, 10:15am
Thanks for that guys!

I'm just after figures really, papers that can back them up would obviously be good but anything would be great, it's for BBC News interview that I am doing...

Cthulhu77, if it is the first time ever then thats spankingly good! Would be nice to have that one on me! :P

They are munching on live prawn and rag worm at the moment, and taking as much frozen mysis as they can cram in their little guts!

I'll try and get some piccies!

~Andy

cthulhu77
Sep 14th, 2004, 10:33am
Hats off to you, sir...that is one hell of an accomplishment ! I did some checking around, and was told that they have not been captive bred yet...at least on this side of the pond.
:notworth:
greg

Andy Lister
Sep 15th, 2004, 07:18am
Woooo

thanks man!

Infusoria
Sep 15th, 2004, 10:02am
Hi

When is this bbc thing? I'm a bit busy right now with an orange roughy lit review. I'm pretty sure I've come across papers with numbers etc... I'm reasonably sure I've got something that says over the last 25 years we've reduced the numbers of big sharks by 75% or something similar.

I'm free next week (finished, or dead, or both) and it will be a nice change to look at something not reddish-yellow and coarse.

Did you know... that they used to known as the Slimeheads? Strangely enough, marketing people in NZ didn't think that would sell in the 80's.

Andy Lister
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:22am
Haha,

htink it might be going out tonite... but if she needs more time then it will be out off til next week!

Would be cool if you could find those papers Matt! Nice

http://www.thisisdorset.net/dorset/archive/2004/09/09/WEYMOUTH_NEWS_NEWS01ZM.html

Thats the story... sorry for the poor text... press release from our HO, not my words!!

~A

cthulhu77
Sep 16th, 2004, 09:27am
Way cool...hats off!

Steve O'Shea
Sep 16th, 2004, 06:42pm
Indeedy

Are they really 'smoothound' sharks, as in 'smoot-hound' or 'smooth-ound', or should they be 'smoothhound' or 'smooth-hound'; seems to me like an 'h' has been dropped somewhere along the way.

Some of TTF's grammar-Nazi influence has rubbed off on me.

Andy Lister
Sep 17th, 2004, 09:18am
it is said smooth hound but there is a(n) h dropped.

Scientific name is mustellus asterias (the Starry Smoothound) if you want to check it out.

:D :D