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OB
Oct 21, '10, 5:07am
This paper (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=can-squid-fly) has some interesting info on Sepioteuthis, which I wasn't aware of, but the real prize is a picture taken, showing Ommastrephid squid actively using jet propulsion out of the water to power their flight.

Just in case folks aren't aware, several types of squid actually take to behaviour similar to that of flying fishes, using both spread out arms and fins to enable gliding. Please find a picture of a group of Sthenoteuthis oualaniensis, airborne, always reminding me a lot of Alberto Santos Dumont' s early airplane design :smile:

http://landbase.hq.unu.edu/Symposia/2002Symposium/Presentations/Shibata_files/slide0028_image117.jpg

(image courtesy of Mitsuaki Iwago)

And this is the plane I was referring to.

http://media.airspacemag.com/images/museum_main_nov06.jpg

Natura artis magistra :wink:

tonmo
Oct 21, '10, 8:23am
Hey, that link doesn't seem to work (I'm on iPhone so not sure if it's just me). Great pic you posted, tho.

OB
Oct 21, '10, 9:40am
OK... Might be the mobile access thing.... Anyway, here's the pic in question

https://www.scientificamerican.com/media/inline/can-squid-fly_1.jpg

Yes, that's flying squid, jetting out "strings" of water (droplets). It allows them to accelerate to 7.2 meters per second. The longest recorded flight was 55 meters, at a maximum altitude of 6 meters, that is pretty impressive! I think that beats the Wright flyer :wink:

tonmo
Oct 21, '10, 5:16pm
Amazing.

bathypol
Oct 22, '10, 5:53pm
you learn something new everyday! :smile:

DWhatley
Oct 22, '10, 7:41pm
Perhaps something is afoot (http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/content.php?sid=3283&utm_source=PFK_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=October_22_2010&utm_term=Leaping_fish_lands_woman_in_hos pital&utm_content=htmlhttp://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/content.php?sid=3283&utm_source=PFK_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=October_22_2010&utm_term=Leaping_fish_lands_woman_in_hos pital&utm_content=html)

A woman in the Florida Keys was knocked out of her kayak and had to be air-lifted to hospital after being hit in the chest by a leaping fish

Level_Head
Oct 23, '10, 2:49pm
Here's the critter in question:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CBE0ACLpke0/St-vxBUvilI/AAAAAAAAACo/GETDXvjmWJI/s320/flyingsquid.jpg
And a link to a nice write-up with very large images of the action (several taking off, landing, powered flight):
http://ferrisjabr.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/when-squid-fly-new-photographic-evidence/

tonmo
Oct 23, '10, 8:54pm
That's great, thanks level_head. My new desktop background on my PC is http://ferrisjabr.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/squid-15.jpg.

DWhatley
Oct 23, '10, 8:57pm
Clicking on the photos really gives you a feel for how unusual that must have been to see. The siphon assist is quite clear in one of them.

OB
Oct 23, '10, 8:57pm
Aren't they gorgeous?

DWhatley
Oct 23, '10, 9:06pm
That was my first throught. I have only seen the Caribbean reef squid in situ and only once (many, many years ago) and did not know for many years if the group we saw were squid or cuttlefish (:grin:). They did not display any bright colors but, had we known more about them, we would have lingered with the group longer and observed more closely.

ckeiser
Nov 01, '10, 12:17pm
This might be the scifi geek in me, but imagine this...

We know S. sepioidea has one of largest repertoires of signaling body patters in the cephalopods. What if they communicate with conspecifics using visual signals during flight!? The tentacular equivalent of two fighter jet pilots communicating via radio?

I doubt this does occur, as the amount of environmental stress on a squid out of water are so great they probably wouldn't waste resources for signaling until safely back in the water. Still a cool thought...

tonmo
Nov 02, '10, 6:55am
That's a great thought. Someone should get out there with a high-speed video camera and capture exactly how it goes - out of water, in air, and back in.

Tintenfisch
Nov 04, '10, 9:26pm
Spectacular shots! Some species of Onychoteuthis do this too. Collection details from the original description of O. bergii translate (from German) as follows: ‘Our two specimens came to us as part of the rich inheritance of specimens from our brave Bergius, who died in the Cape of Good Hope in January of this year of tuberculosis, the victim of his own tireless efforts at collecting and observing plants and animals. His journal from the voyage reveals that these specimens flew on board the ship one night. One was found the following morning on the foredeck, the other in the crow’s nest, thirty feet above the sea surface, more evidence to support Aristotle’s remarks on their power of flight. The very elastic lateral flaps or fins may be of particular use in this respect. This occurred in May, 1816, approximately 100 miles west of the Cape. I have heard from other seafarers that other similar animals were collected in this way at about the same time.'

Lichtenstein, K.M.H. (1818) Onychoteuthis, Sepien mit Krallen. Isis, 1818, 1591–1592.

OB
Nov 05, '10, 9:24pm
What an excellent resource!