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Tintenfisch Mar 10th, 2004, 04:30pm What would you do if you came across one of these??
Just a weird mutation that apparently pops up sometimes... anyone else come across images or reports of this? The one I know of best is from Sasaki (1929), from which I have included the photo and a bit of text. He also refers to two other reports, so I'll give the refs below.
Ikeda, S. 1800-1891. A list of Japanese Cephalopoda in the Zoological Institute of Imperial University. Zoological Magazine of Tokyo II, III.
Sasaki, M., 1929. A monograph of the dibranchiate cephalopods of the Japanese and adjacent waters. Journal of the Faculty of Agriculture, Hokkaido Imperial University 20 (Supplement 10): 357 pp.
Smith, E.A. 1900. Notes on an "Octopus" with Branching Arms. Annals and Magazine of Natural History 7(20): 407-411.
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[Edit - Re-attached the Sasaki figure (1929, Plate IV) in 2007, not sure what the other image was.]
um... Mar 10th, 2004, 04:34pm I've just redecorated this office in a sort of "Partially Digested Lunch" motif.
Kidding. That's really neat, :twisted:.
fluffysquid Mar 10th, 2004, 04:35pm Woah! That picture! I was expecting just a little branch...
Tintenfisch Mar 10th, 2004, 04:56pm I know, kind of socks you in the gut the first time you see it, huh?
The Smith paper actually gives another reference:
'Furcation in the arms of Cephalopods appears to be a rare occurrence, judging from the few records of such abnormalities. C. Parona* has described and figured bifurcation in an arm of "Eledone moschata," an additional arm in E. Aldrovandi, and a bifurcate arm in "Octopus vulgaris." These are the only records I have been able to discover of such irregularities of growth.
*Boll. Mus. Zool. Anat. Comp. Genova, 1900 no. 96.'
softiq Mar 10th, 2004, 04:56pm Anyone remember that little David Lynch film? :roll:
http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=2173
um... Mar 10th, 2004, 04:58pm *grin*
Burstsovenergy24 Mar 10th, 2004, 05:33pm :shock:
That's my response to the pic. :shock:
Is that a real photo or was it drawn?
Tintenfisch Mar 10th, 2004, 05:52pm It's a photo. Smith gives a slightly more whimsical illustration but does appear to have been looking at the same phenomenon.
Phil Mar 10th, 2004, 07:21pm Kat,
What do you think could cause this deformity? Is it a random mutation do you think, or are there more sinister forces at work here?
Phil
Melissa Mar 10th, 2004, 08:43pm Polydactyl octopus? Polydactypus? :cyclops: I don't know why this makes me happy. Do you think such an animal would lead a "normal" octo life? It doesn't look debilitated.
Melissa
krogey Mar 11th, 2004, 02:16am :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
ok apart from looking very strange it looks like it could be a little painfull.....
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Fujisawas Sake Mar 11th, 2004, 03:14am hmmm...
Odd yes, but not surprising. Polydactyly isn't THAT rare, though in cephs the result is very bizarre. I wonder how functional the branched limbs were?
John
joel_ang Mar 11th, 2004, 06:02am Could the reason be the same as people with double thumb/toes or limbs for that matter (No offence to anyone [at all]) ?
andermuffins Mar 12th, 2004, 11:40am I just happened to be browsing through the images on cephbase in preparation for giving a little cephalopod speech at school the other day and found an image of just this sort of thing, although it was only one branch on one arm.
Cephbase image search result (http://www.cephbase.utmb.edu/imgdb/imgsrch3.cfm?ID=65&PhotographerID=&CephID=&Location=&Keywords=arm&LowestTaxa=)
For those who don't have time for cephbase to load: The photo by John W. Forsythe shows a "bifurcated arm tip" on an Octopus briareus and further states that both tips were fully functional.
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Mark in Berkeley
Snafflehound Mar 12th, 2004, 10:53pm if the arms kept branching indefinitely it would be more of a fractalpus than an octopus :P
Burstsovenergy24 Mar 13th, 2004, 01:07am I drew a pic of that as a guy's hair. It was disturbing. lol.
tonmo Mar 14th, 2004, 09:15am I had never read / seen of anything like this before today. Thanks for posting this T!!
Brown Mar 15th, 2004, 01:18pm We see bifurcating arms once or twice a year and always in the larger (= older) animals (Octopus vulgaris). As we always see them on the tips of the arms (rather than being a whole extra arm (e.g. 9)) and we know the arms regrow after injury, I've always thought it represents what sometimes happens after regrowth rather than a mutation.. But I could be wrong. We also see the same thing sometimes in regenerating starfish arms. To my knowledge no one has made a special study of this.
Steve O'Shea Mar 15th, 2004, 01:43pm Here's a paper:
Toll, R.B.; Binger, L.C. 1991. Arm anomalies: cases of supernumerary development and bilateral agensis of arm pairs in Octopoda (Mollusca, Cephalopoda). Zoomorphology 110: 313-316.
The abstract goes as follows:
The first case of true hexapody among the Octopoda, resulting from bilateral agensis of one arm pair, is described for a male Pteroctopus tetracirrhus. A case of decapody, with uniform development of all arms, is also reported for the first time for a male Octopus briareus. Both conditions apparently result from developmental anomalies of the embryonic arm anlagen. A survey of other anomalous conditions relating to arm devlopment and regeneration within the Cephalopoda is provided. A possible relationship of polyfurcation of arm tips in the Octopoda with regenerative processes in amphibian limbs leading to similar conditions is suggested.
They cite the following papers:
Gleadall, I.G. 1989. An octopus with only seven arms: anatomical details. Journal of Molluscan Studies 55: 479-487.
Kumph, H.E. 1960. Arm abnormality in Octopus. Nature 185: 334-335.
Okada, Y.K. 1935. An octopus with branched arms and mode of branching. Annot. Zool. Japon. 15: 5-23.
Okada, Y.K. 1937. An occurence of branched arms in the decapod cephalopod, Sepia esculenta Hoyle. Annot. Zool. Japon. 17(1): 93-94.
Okada, Y.K. 1965a. On Japanese octopuses with branched arms, with special reference to their captures from 1884 to 1964. Proc. Jap. Acad. 41(7): 618-623.
Okada, Y.K. 1965b. Rule of arm-branching in Japanese octopuses with branched arms. Proc. Jap. Acad. 41(7): 624-629.
Palacio, F. 1973. On the double hectocotylisation of octopods. Nautilus 87(4): 99-102.
Robson, G.C. 1929. On a case of bilateral hectocotylisation in Octopus rugosus. Proceedings of the Zoological Society of London, 1929: 95-97.
Smith, E.A. 1907. Notes on an "Octopus" with branching arms. Ann. Mag. Natur. Hist. 7: 407-411.
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Sorry about the abbreviated reference citation for many; this is as is in Toll & Binger's paper; I can cite full details shortly (just need to check those Japanese ones out).
Cheers
O
um... Mar 15th, 2004, 02:03pm Is it possible that the freak shown in the photo above was producing at least some of those furcations in response to non-arm-severing injuries?
Tintenfisch Mar 16th, 2004, 05:13pm Here's the Smith article; it's quite brief but does include a (rather whimsical) illustration, partially reconstructed since he mentions most of the head and viscera having been removed. :roll:
http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=2208
http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=2209
http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=2210
um... Mar 16th, 2004, 05:21pm Danke schön!
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