being that my octo appears to be nearing its end, i hope to be able to rear the babies but if not i would like to go back on the search for a cuttle
im am in the U.S. which is why it is so difficult Florida to be specific
if anybody has any advice or can help me get one please let me know

go to the National Resource Centerfor Cepholopods the address should be kicking round the site somewhere they guarantee live arival and theyre cuttles are lab cultured so they know the age the price vaierys (bad spelling!) depending on the species
sepia officinals $25.00-$50.00
sepia pharaonis $30.00-$80.00

$15.00 paking fee and guaranteed to be on your doorstep at 10.00am the next day now thats service (plug...plug .....plug....plug) NRCC beter read this mama needs a new dictunary :notworth:

Here (http://www.nrcc.utmb.edu/PRICES.html) is the site. I thought they didnt ship to nonresearch people though. :? Anybody that works there care to chime in?

you could say your a reasearch facility fedex wont care (em cough eh no :goofysca: dont do eh that cause :goofysca: its eh moraly wrong) just put the insert sir name here reasearch centre and charge it to your credit card em eh dont do that cause its wrong yeah i think they do send to non reasearch facilities but that might be wild colected only

Sorry, tough luck, they only send to research facilities, but if you are still in Uni, you could get them to deliver the cephs to the University then collect it from there.

Another problem is size, the pharaonis and officinalis can grow to be about 40-45cm ML, a really big tank would be needed for that. Getting enough food can be costly too since they eat so much.

i got fish from a simalar reasearch center by saying i was the British Empire Marine Biology Trust and Reasearch Center of Scotland (tip to reasearch facilities the british empire fell in the 1930s!) they found out and they didnt mind! :mrgreen:

Joel,

Feeding a big ceph would be easier than feeding a small ceph because you can get those half a foot long crabs for like a buck. :)

when i fist started reding the replies i started to get all excited, i had tried the nrcc before, i was hoping maybe things had changed, last time i did say i was doing research, i said i was trying to study husbandry and i requested one male and i female specimen, they basically told me tough s*&%

as far as food i live very close to the beach and crabs are very abundant

where in FL are you?

ft lauderdale area

i got fish from a simalar reasearch center by saying i was the British Empire Marine Biology Trust and Reasearch Center of Scotland (tip to reasearch facilities the british empire fell in the 1930s!)


tut tut tut

:? Is that the same as tsk tsk tsk?

You could try to ask Righty ( or Lefty as he is known on RC) where he got his bandensis from. Tut Tut Tut?

Octopets is getting sepia officialences (huge spelling error) this summer.
I have my own version, it's like ntk ntk ntk. :roll:

at least you got told tough S*&^ they never got back to me :evil: :twisted:

doesnt officinalis get really big, i am working with a 55g tank?

are they trying to hatch them or are they going to be importing them?

do know how much they will be charging?

do they have any method of shipping that will improve chances of survival?

It says that S Officinalis grows to 45cm in temperate waters and to 30cm in subtropical waters, oth are in ML. Though it will fit in a 55, alot of problems will be present, in short, 55g is small for a officinalis.

I think Colin recommends a 200+ gallon for sepia o.

yep, that i do


kst kst kst

ctl ctl ctl

Whats with all this stuff :?:

Looks like anchorfish has cuttlefish!

http://www.anchofish.com/inverts_octopuses.htm

no joel, it seems yet another supplier has the elusive cAttlefish.... so sorry.... :roll:

also, why list a blue ring if you're not going to sell it?

:thumbsdo:

also, why list a blue ring if you're not going to sell it?

They also have it down as a octopus cyanea. Don't know how the hell they got those two mixed up.

Ntk ntk ntk.

Could it have gone out of stock or run out of a supplier. The cuttlefish thing did look promising :roll: . Theres also some guy who breeds officinalis.http://is.dal.ca/~ceph/TCP/sources.html go here then look foir the link which says Richard Stride.

i tried to email "Richard Stride" unfortunately it was returned with errors unable to deliver

i saw the listing on anchofish im going to call this morning as soon as they open, th strange part is they list it as cattlefish/squid, if i order what am i going to get, an underwater cow or a squid? :lol:
sorry couldnt resist
well i will call in about an hour or so to find out, i will let everyone know what i find

GL, hope you have success!!!

I got my original cuttles from richard, he lives in the south of england and batch rears eggs that he finds on local lobster pots...

try his emails again and if it bounces again i'll get in touch with him for you by phone, but sending eggs or cuttles to the US from here will cost a small fortune and is covered in red tape

i have always been fascinated with cuttles, and after finding this site im desperate to get one, as long as its within my means i would be very interested, i will try to email him again, this is the e-mail i have for him, is it correct? sepia@care4free.net

yeah thats it :)

I wil phone him if it bounces.. it often takes him a few days to reply to emails

Original cuttles Colin? Was that the 7 babies? I wonder If Richard still breeds them?

i tried to email Richard Strider again and again i got it returned undeliverable :? i would appreciate it if you could make that call for me, at least to find out how difficult and costly it would be for me to aquire a cuttle or even some eggs
in would be indebt to you :notworth:

(figured it would be a great time to use this little smiley guy)

okay, i'll try tonight and give him a call :rainbow:

did you ever manage to get ahold of him?
although i got another octo i do have a 20g tank which would be great for hatching eggs, its already full of little copepods for the babies to eat

It will be fine for now but do you have any plans when it grows too big? Maybe you cold release it into the sea but that might cause problems with the eco-system.

im actually considering getting another 55g tank that would probably be their new home

no, i tried him once and no answer, will follow up another time... but for a cuttle tank you'll need to multiply that gallonage by about 4!

aim for at least 200 for sepia officinalis...

too late tonight to phone, i'll try to remember tomorrow :)

well, i guess ill let my wife read these and then maybe ill get a 200g tank :D

i dont think shes gonna like the idea :x

no joel, it seems yet another supplier has the elusive cAttlefish.... so sorry.... :roll:

also, why list a blue ring if you're not going to sell it?

:thumbsdo:

Kinda late on this but its good they put this:

Warning It has extremely toxic which can inflict a bite fatal to humans, never touch this animal bare hand.



That is a bad site though.

I keep hearing 200 gallons for theses but , is it the length of the tasnk that is the issue ? I mean a 125 @ 72'' long is still to small? How long are 200?

It's because they are like a foot long and can jet really fast. If it gets a cut it could get infected. :(

I keep hearing 200 gallons for theses but , is it the length of the tasnk that is the issue ? I mean a 125 @ 72'' long is still to small? How long are 200?

good point and something that has bugged me for a long time, since i first started going online actually, (nancy will back me up on that LOL) but I have seemed to have slipped into the habit myself :(

In the UK tanks are sold on their out dimensions (inches) and in the USA sold by their gallonge.. I have fallen under the gals because noone in the US knew what i was talking about...

So, to clarify 200 gals would be best made up by using a 72x24x24 inch tank which is 6 foot by 2 by 2 and holds approx 180 gals when fill. Then add a 20 gal or so sump to house skimmer etc. Therefor that is my recomendation for cuttles.

Just got something to say, the length of the tank is more important than the height.

I figured the long style would be the way to go compared to a breeder style ( so they can jet ). Now this might be silly question but are there dwarf species that do not get as large ( or is the species that has been mentioned on this post the dwarf or the dwarfs are not as hardy/difficult to find)?

The dwarf species are Sepia bandenss, they grow to about 5cm Ml and are not too difficult to keep, however, obtaining a healthy one is gonna be hard unless you're in south east asia :)

Hey guys. I got my S. bandensis from the LFS. He won't tell me the suppplier he is getting them from, and I don't want to sneak around his back, possibly ruining our relationship till he can get me a couple more for breeding. There have been two occasions where they were supposed to show up, but didn't. Apparently the wholesaler calls them squid.

Hopefully, I will be able to breed them and we can take over the world.

Apparently the wholesaler calls them squid.

Sounds like one of my LFS's wholesalers, they won't tell my LFS manager anything about them either. :?

The wholesaler prolly doesn't actually know anything about them! :D

I wish my LFS had some S. bandensis. But I have no money... :cry:

Apparently the wholesaler calls them squid

That also sounds like one of my sources of cuttlefish who also calls them squid :?