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KalihiBoy
Feb 14th, 2004, 03:30am
I went snorkeling and i saw an Ornate Octopus(Octopus ornatus).
Down here in Hawaii we call it the night squid,and it is very very agressive. It wont let you touch it unless you get bitten :roll:

Can it be kept in a tank at home :heee: ?

neptune
Feb 14th, 2004, 09:52am
Do you mean a he'e pūloa, he'e mākoko?

KalihiBoy
Feb 14th, 2004, 10:06pm
Yes that is what i mean :)

he'e puloa=octopus with long head
he'e makoko=redish octopus :snorkel: :octopus:

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 14th, 2004, 10:09pm
I just watched 2 videos of one at Cephbase:

http://www.cephbase.utmb.edu/viddb/vidsrch2.cfm?CephID=570

neptune
Feb 14th, 2004, 10:21pm
Who is going to break up that fight. :bugout:

I can not believe how vicious that second video got so quick. Both beautiful specimens. :|

What size tank are you thing about KB? And what steel reinforcement? :sink:

:P

KalihiBoy
Feb 15th, 2004, 02:45pm
Whats that 2nd octo in that video?(IT'S BIG)!!
I wonder who won the fight :shock:

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 15th, 2004, 03:05pm
Octopus Cyanea

It's a beauty eh?

KalihiBoy
Feb 15th, 2004, 06:11pm
Yep! Sure is :talker:

But still is can i keep an ornate octopus at home?

neptune
Feb 15th, 2004, 06:40pm
Looks like a big octo, and therefor needs a big tank! If the Cyanea is any indication, use that as a size ref for tanks. How big do they get, do you know?

KalihiBoy
Feb 15th, 2004, 07:01pm
with arms spread out the cyanea is about 3ft and up to 4-5 pounds :shock:
and the ornate with arms spread is about 2ft :heee: :octopus:

neptune
Feb 15th, 2004, 07:08pm
Must have been wraslin' with a younger cyanea in that vid.

I can advise or go against your ambition, just sounds like a lot of big equiptment. What are you planning on?

KalihiBoy
Feb 15th, 2004, 07:17pm
I am just doing my research on what i whant to keep in my aquarium :talker:

neptune
Feb 15th, 2004, 07:18pm
Understood! What I ment was planning on with the aquarium size?

KalihiBoy
Feb 15th, 2004, 10:56pm
Oh sorry............ :heee: :notworth:
I am planing on a 55gal tank :)

neptune
Feb 15th, 2004, 11:03pm
I would not know their appetite. But, I don't believe your he'e pūloa, he'e mākoko will fit in that. Although slender, at two feet it will be able to make quite a mess, and have very little room. IMO -Sorry :(

Perhaps someone may have more info on that species here.

Have you researched a bimac?

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 15th, 2004, 11:09pm
Or you could get some of these (http://www.dal.ca/~ceph/TCP/Escolopes.html)!

You could grow em and when they lay eggs you could send them to Nick and I! :heee:

neptune
Feb 15th, 2004, 11:13pm
:roflmao:

thanks for leaving me out!

KalihiBoy
Feb 16th, 2004, 01:06am
No i havent researched on a bimac, but the only reason i had researched on the ornatus and the cyanea is bcause we have alot down here were i live. :heee:

and the euprymna sclopes (Hawaiian Bobtail Squid) i have never seen when i went diving or snorkeling, so i think those are rare :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: . :histio:

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 16th, 2004, 04:57pm
Neptune do you want E. scolopes too? :)

Jai:

Another way to get a cephalopod, and my favorite option, is to collect your own. Collecting a cephalopod can be both fun, educational and challenging. Before you head to the great outdoors, be sure to check the local fishing regulations for your area. A fishing licence is almost always needed and in some areas cephalopods can not be collected. Divers (especially those that dive at night), fishermen, and professors of invertebrate biology are likely to know if cephalopods are in your area. Some species are nocturnal and/or are active at dawn and dusk so you may have to be up in the wee hours to find them. Some species, like E. scolopes, can be collected in very shallow water while other species are easier to collect while snorkeling or diving. I typically use a dive net, the kind that has clear plastic sides around an aluminum frame and screening at the bottom. I also use a tickle stick. My partner's job is to keep a light on the critter and try not to drown herself by inhaling water while laughing at my efforts... Unfortunately, there aren't any 'true' cuttlefish (those with a cuttlebone) like Sepia spp. off of North America. There are some close relatives like E. scolopes and Rossia spp. though.

From here (http://www.dal.ca/~ceph/TCP/cuttle2.html).

So try very shallow water.
Would you seriously get some for us? :heee:

KalihiBoy
Feb 16th, 2004, 07:51pm
I will try very hard to get you guys some ,but remember i have never seen any in my life so there are no promises :cry: ok!

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 16th, 2004, 08:26pm
Ill be reseaching where and how to find em. :D

KalihiBoy
Feb 17th, 2004, 01:13am
Ok :mrgreen: just let me now were to go get them.


I woldnt mind keeping one myself.that would be cool 8)

Well just let me now and ill do some research myself. :D :read:

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 18th, 2004, 06:32pm
Did you see this:

E. scolopes can be found at night nearshore over sand flats by wading with a light or lantern or snorkeling with a dive light. During the day it buries itself in the sand. When it emerges from the sand it keeps a "sand coat" on its dorsal surface which is presumed to give it camouflage when attacking prey.

It's an excert from here (http://www.dal.ca/~ceph/TCP/Escolopes.html).

KalihiBoy
Feb 18th, 2004, 08:14pm
OK! I will try that.

But I also read they are abundant near Kane'ohe Bay,The Bad thing is there are alot of TIGER SHARKS there :goofysca: :goofysca:
But i'll try. :heee:

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 18th, 2004, 08:53pm
Yeah it would suck if you got killed! :cry:


Where did you read that?

KalihiBoy
Feb 18th, 2004, 09:21pm
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Yep it would suck if i get Killed :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: : :roflmao: :roflmao: :

Hawaii Sea Creatures By=John p. Hoover

But I new about the SHARKS!! :goofysca:

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 18th, 2004, 10:03pm
So when are you gonna go Sepiolid hunting? :heee:

neptune
Feb 18th, 2004, 11:42pm
BOE letds go to Hawaii and help!!! 8)

NickA5582
Feb 19th, 2004, 10:52am
I'll help too, no cephs in Jamaica outside a souvenir stand. :(

KalihiBoy
Feb 19th, 2004, 12:11pm
So you guys are realy coming then 8)

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 19th, 2004, 06:48pm
Sure! Just send a few hundred and Ill be on my way! :heee:

KalihiBoy
Feb 19th, 2004, 07:50pm
Ha.......FUNNY!!!
:jester: :lol: :jester: :lol:

RandyB
Jun 3rd, 2004, 10:34pm
What did you ever decide about this? Did you get a squid or octopus? I've found several octopus lately and think I might keep one. I only have a 60 gallon tank, but the filtration is setup for a 300 gallon tank.