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Crevalle
Feb 9th, 2004, 05:33pm
Ok, I've been wondering this for a few days now (after watching an interesting show on the San Francisco coastal waters): why are squids never available or kept as pets? Is it because they would ink immediately? They look so gracefull and interesting.

ant
Feb 9th, 2004, 05:34pm
IMO they are porbbably harder to catch

NickA5582
Feb 9th, 2004, 05:36pm
Cause squid suck in tanks, you need a big non transparent cylinder tank to keep one and can jet faster than cuttles can, I think.

ant
Feb 9th, 2004, 05:37pm
i was just guessing

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 9th, 2004, 06:15pm
Well ant they probably are. But since SOS has grown them from eggs it probably wouldnt be to hard to catch em. :)

Sepiolids would be alot better since they look like squids but dont need the cylindracal tank.

What Nick and I want (http://www.dal.ca/~ceph/TCP/Escolopes.html)

ant
Feb 9th, 2004, 07:10pm
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww its so cute :o great now youve got me liking squid

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 9th, 2004, 07:19pm
Sepiolid. :wink:

Also this. (http://www.dal.ca/~ceph/TCP/Rpacifica.html)

Jean
Feb 9th, 2004, 07:27pm
The huge problem with many squid is that they are immensely difficult to keep alive in captivity and require systems that are well beyond the means of most home aquarists. Loliginid squids, like the market squids and the Sepioteuthis Steve and Kat are raising have been held (At Galveston and of course Auckland!) but the more open ocean species haven't. We tried to keep Nototodarus sloanii alive but with little success (the longest lived for a week) They need specialised tanks (& even as a marine research lab we didn't have them) and mega amounts of food (live and kicking!!!) basically they need to been swimming in a soup of food!....right Steve??

Cheers

J

ant
Feb 9th, 2004, 08:35pm
that second one looks like tako

NickA5582
Feb 9th, 2004, 08:44pm
And the uncute one :arrow: http://www.dal.ca/~ceph/TCP/Hdispar.html

I'll probably end up getting the Rosia this summer, I'd like to try more coldwater cephs like Bathypolus articus cause they're :cool: too.

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 9th, 2004, 08:52pm
Yeah. They do live longer but they are smaller. :?

Wonder why it will take Octopets so long to get em. :(



I dont really have the money for another ceph tank. :cry:

NickA5582
Feb 9th, 2004, 08:56pm
Yeah 2 years, but they don't glow like Es do. :rainbow:
I'm just using my 20 gallon and am selling some of my rock so there is more room for them to bury and more money for my chiller.

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 9th, 2004, 09:02pm
What is the temp need to be for Euprymna scolopes?

NickA5582
Feb 9th, 2004, 09:03pm
72 degrees F.

Crevalle
Feb 9th, 2004, 09:57pm
NickA5582--what species of cephs are you keeping right now?

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 9th, 2004, 10:01pm
72 degrees F.

8) I wouldnt need a chiller for that. :)

NickA5582
Feb 9th, 2004, 10:02pm
None, had a bimac a few weeks ago though, I kept him for five months successfully then stopped eating and a crab snipped his leg off, then a stupid heater mistake finished him off.

I'd need both (heater and a chiller for a bimac), in the summer my tank was 80 degrees F, in the winter it goes down to the lower 60s.

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 9th, 2004, 10:13pm
Because I have my tank in the basement it's a rather stable temp. The hot air comes upstairs so it never gets above about 75° F. The temp. down there now with no heater is about 45°F. :shock:

joel_ang
Feb 10th, 2004, 03:20am
I've tried getting squid before but they die pretty quickly out of water it seems. Its not easy catching them in a container when you're about 4 metres above the waves. :( They are also more prone to inking and can jet at a very high speed which can cause some bad butt burn in tanks.

joel_ang
Feb 11th, 2004, 04:33am
Well, since im so high above the water, we used a net attached to a long pole, the squid would ink like mad once it out of the water, after putting it in a fiberglass container, it perished after 2-3 minutes.

I guessed that the only way was to either get into the water with the squid to catch them in containers, or attach a container to the pole and scoop the squid up. But that would be pretty hard due to weight. The pole itself weighs about 40 pounds. it might sound light but its 7 metres long and can be awkward to handle. :(

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 11th, 2004, 02:24pm
Ohhh. But why are you high above the water?

How long is the squid out of the water?

Colin
Feb 11th, 2004, 03:43pm
guess he means he is on a harbour wall or in a boat

um...
Feb 11th, 2004, 03:49pm
Perhaps he is a giant. Are you a giant, joel?

FEE! FIE! FOE! FUM!...

Colin
Feb 11th, 2004, 03:50pm
LOL so obvious now that you mention it!

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 11th, 2004, 04:51pm
Perhaps he is a giant. Are you a giant, joel?

FEE! FIE! FOE! FUM!...

It all make's sense now!


:lol:

neptune
Feb 11th, 2004, 06:34pm
:roflmao:

joel_ang
Feb 12th, 2004, 01:46am
Fine ,Fine ,Fine, I admit it, I gave my fake height of 5 ft 8 But im really a 16 ft giant :) I can barely get in my home andi have to huch all the time since the ceiling is so low.

Colin
Feb 12th, 2004, 02:55am
so what was the reason?? :D

joel_ang
Feb 12th, 2004, 08:56am
I was at a jetty, it has a large net under the water. At night, spotlights are turned on to attract small fish which in turn attract squid. The net is then raised so the squid are still in the water. After that, that dumb net on a pole is used to get them out. You won't believe the amount of ink that can come out from those buggers.

Colin
Feb 13th, 2004, 02:42am
yes i can... about as much as come sout of adult Sepia???? LOLOL

transferring them was a nightmare

joel_ang
Feb 13th, 2004, 09:08am
Yes, now multiply that by about 50-100 squid and you'll get the picture :wink:. The ink is absolutely terrible, the wooden floor of the jetty is stained by the thousands of inking squids brought up there.The size of the squids caught range from 2.5 - 25cm ML.

Are you talking bout the transfer to the public aquarium? Its madness if the cuttles ink apon death, they seem to let go every last bit of ink they have in their bodies. :)

sideways
Feb 13th, 2004, 01:40pm
My first hands on experience with cephs was with squid in college. We would take a shrimp boat a mile or two offshore in North Carolina and pull a trawl for samples. Most of the little squids(~2 inch mantle) would be damaged or dying but a few would be fine and swim around in a 20 gallon tub for the couple hours we were out. They seemed very charasmatic and would reach out and grab your finger and hold on even if you picked them up out of the water. I never saw one ink, maybe they were out of ink by the time they got to the boat.

joel_ang
Feb 13th, 2004, 06:41pm
Do you think it wight work if a finer net was used or if the procedure was done faster?

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 13th, 2004, 10:00pm
Yes, now multiply that by about 50-100 squid and you'll get the picture :wink:. The ink is absolutely terrible, the wooden floor of the jetty is stained by the thousands of inking squids brought up there.The size of the squids caught range from 2.5 - 25cm ML.

Are you talking bout the transfer to the public aquarium? Its madness if the cuttles ink apon death, they seem to let go every last bit of ink they have in their bodies. :)
:shock:

Uh...

What are you catching the squid for?

joel_ang
Feb 14th, 2004, 07:37am
Normally its for food as we use it alot in seafood dishes. But since I'm allergic to squid ( Yay!) I wanna try keeping them in a larger tank.

Burstsovenergy24
Feb 14th, 2004, 12:02pm
Cool. 8)