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ant
Jan 13th, 2004, 10:41pm
how do i keep my octo from escapeing

Colin
Jan 14th, 2004, 02:30am
make sure you cover all holes where equipment leaves/enters the tank.

Use a tight fitting lid with no gaps and maybe even a weight on top of the feeding hatch or use dact tape to hold it shut.

Bimacs are not so prone to escapology as other species

joel_ang
Jan 14th, 2004, 05:34am
But don't get complacent just because bimacs aren't prone to escape. If you plan to use weights to secure lids, know that octopuses are very strong. :wink:

um...
Jan 14th, 2004, 06:47am
You could try breaking its ankles.

Neil

joel_ang
Jan 14th, 2004, 08:08am
All 8 of em?

um...
Jan 14th, 2004, 08:11am
Well, maybe 6 or 7 would be enough. Personally, I wouldn't leave anything to chance.

Neil

joel_ang
Jan 14th, 2004, 08:17am
:heee:

Colin
Jan 14th, 2004, 01:28pm
or perhap knit little mits for all of its suckers???

um...
Jan 14th, 2004, 01:48pm
Chain it to a post?

Neil

Colin
Jan 14th, 2004, 02:06pm
tie its arms behind its back


(these are those useless posts i mentioned before eh?)

um...
Jan 14th, 2004, 02:12pm
:lol:

:indiffer: (that's me, shutting up)

Neil

Colin
Jan 14th, 2004, 02:13pm
LOL me too

:| :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

surfy
Jan 14th, 2004, 09:09pm
LOL, the mittens would be kinda cool to see. :D

cthulhu77
Jan 14th, 2004, 09:49pm
You could always use a piece of copper pipe for the hiding place...that should keep it from escaping!
Realistically, I use nylon screen mesh glued over eggcrate (most lfs will make this for you) held down with clips...no weights necessary, and easy to get in and out of (for you, not the octo)
Greg

joel_ang
Jan 15th, 2004, 06:41am
Which part is an octopuses back?

Colin
Jan 15th, 2004, 02:25pm
you planning on breaking it? :D

joel_ang
Jan 16th, 2004, 04:26am
If they have sumthing in there to break at least. I think tearing its back is more appropriate :twisted:

Castor
Jan 16th, 2004, 08:51am
Remind me to never anger any of you, or give the impression that I might escape! :shock:

How many cups of sugar it takes to get to the moon?

238,857 (total miles) x 5,280 (feet per mile) = 1,261,164,960 (total feet)

1,261,164,960 (total feet) x 12 (inches per foot) = 25,133,979,760 (total inches)

25,133,979,760 (total inches) / 6 (how many segments of two inches a 'cup' in 12 inches) = 4,188,996,626.66666666666666

neptune
Jan 16th, 2004, 10:08am
Would that also not depend on the diameter of the "cup"?

Colin
Jan 16th, 2004, 02:56pm
and at what stage the moon is at in its cycle?


:mrgreen:

um...
Jan 16th, 2004, 03:37pm
:feet:

Or...

Take a 'sufficiently large' block of sugar and cut it up into 0.5 mm cubical grains. Each grain will have a volume of 0.125 cubic mm. One cup is equal to 236.588 mL, which is equal to 236,588 cubic mm. Thus, we can fit 1,890,000 grains in a cup. If we take these grains and lie them end-to-end, they will stretch 945 m. The Moon is, on average, about 384,500,000 m from Earth. Therefore, it would take about 407,000 cups of sugar to reach the Moon.

Neil

neptune
Jan 16th, 2004, 03:47pm
Are we talking granulated or sugar in the raw here?

Colin
Jan 16th, 2004, 03:55pm
sugar cane would probably be more cost effective as it is longer???

um...
Jan 16th, 2004, 03:57pm
Well, I was taking a solid block of sucrose and cutting it precisely into cubes of a specified size. If we reduce the grain size to 0.1 mm, then it only takes something like 16,250 cups of sugar to reach the Moon. What if we spin the sugar into threads 0.01 mm in thickness? What if we consider just making a single gigantic polysaccharide?

Neil

neptune
Jan 16th, 2004, 04:01pm
cotton candy to the moon!

um...
Jan 16th, 2004, 04:10pm
What if we first pour absinthe over the sugar? I bet I could reach the Moon in about five tablespoons.

:wine:

Neil

neptune
Jan 16th, 2004, 04:12pm
ROTFL :lol:

Colin
Jan 16th, 2004, 04:47pm
yeah, ive always fancied a *trip* to the moon



em, em, em, em,

errrrrrrrr.. em...
Not all octopuses are so keen to escape :|

joel_ang
Jan 17th, 2004, 06:40am
:o :shock: Well I got the signature from The Goofy Movie . You guys actually bothered :lol: Don't know why but the answer they gave was 2 :P

Castor
Jan 17th, 2004, 07:40am
Strange, isn't it! :bugout:

um...
Jan 17th, 2004, 10:03am
:o :shock: Well I got the signature from The Goofy Movie . You guys actually bothered :lol: Don't know why but the answer they gave was 2 :P

It's the absiiiiiiiinthe...

If we took 1 cup of antisugar and mixed it with 1 cup of sugar, Star Trek style, we could probably get to Pluto. We'd have to have a small payload and lots of gravity-assist, though. Neil

Melissa
Jan 17th, 2004, 03:09pm
Granulated sugar? Melt the sugar and tease it into caramel threads, much thinner than granules. Like the threads of cotton candy, just tastier.

Although absinthe may be faster...

Melissa

neptune
Jan 17th, 2004, 04:13pm
Absinthe, albeit expensive here, is a lot cheaper than any rocket fuel I can think of.

WhiteKiboko
Jan 17th, 2004, 04:33pm
I can imagine a non-sugar and/or absinthe route... it involves a teuthologist and a certain singers memorablia...


Steve: "One of these days Kat...."

um...
Jan 17th, 2004, 06:02pm
:roflmao:

Beautiful.Neil

joel_ang
Jan 18th, 2004, 12:08am
:shock: :lol: :shock:

dragonfish
Jan 19th, 2004, 05:13pm
Man!!! this is the funniest thread in the entire forum!!!!!!!!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

why don't you use the old ball and chain to keep an octo from escaping. it works well in those old prison movies.

btw has anybody ever tried salt to get to the moon?

but seriously. any holes should be covered with fine mesh that's for sure.

what I've seen to prevent escaping in the antwerp zoo, is the following.
they have several octopus vulgaris. 1 on display, the others behind the scenes. They cover the tanks with those blue filtration mats that are used for the garden pond. apparantly the octo's suckers have no grip on that surface.

for the vulgaris in aquatopia. the top of his tank is covered with artificial grass. his suckers have no grip on that either.

um...
Jan 19th, 2004, 05:52pm
btw has anybody ever tried salt to get to the moon?

I believe that the Soviets tried and failed. I've heard rumours that the Chinese are going to give it another try, given the past two decades' great advances in seasoning-rocket technology.

They will probably have a tough time of it, though. The Yanks have proven conclusively that liquid condiments give the best performance for the money.Neil

NASA = National A1 Sauce Administration

tonmo
Jan 19th, 2004, 09:01pm
I've heard rumours that the Chinese are going to give it another try, given the past two decades' great advances in seasoning-rocket technology.

They just need a little more thyme...

uuuunnnnnggggg...

:tomato:

um...
Jan 19th, 2004, 09:11pm
:lol:

Neil says to hold the ketchup.

tonmo
Jan 19th, 2004, 09:14pm
Armstrong?

<-- making Colin work for it :twisted:

um...
Jan 20th, 2004, 02:35am
Neil Sedaka.

Uh... :nofeet:

They cover the tanks with those blue filtration mats that are used for the garden pond. apparantly the octo's suckers have no grip on that surface.

That makes sense. If the sucker can't form a watertight seal, then it isn't going to work very well.


I'm trying to be good, Colin, but it's hard.

joel_ang
Jan 20th, 2004, 04:28am
But I guess if there is a hatch somewhere for food to come in it can push it open without the need for gripping it, unless its locked of course.

joel_ang
Jan 20th, 2004, 04:29am
How many 300 ml bottles of oyster sauce does it take to get to the moon?

Colin
Jan 20th, 2004, 05:38pm
which brand? :?

joel_ang
Jan 20th, 2004, 10:49pm
Does it actually make a difference? Well then again, just to keep it cephy, how many rings of calamari 1 1/2 inches in diameter does it take to get to...Mars?

dragonfish
Jan 21st, 2004, 02:52am
Well then again, just to keep it cephy, how many rings of calamari 1 1/2 inches in diameter does it take to get to...Mars?

that depends. if you cut them, you can stretch 'em lengthwise. this would take about half the amount needed if you don't cut them.

:grad:

back to the octo escape. the octo tank at aquatopia has a feeding hatch. there is a lock on it, but some genius placed that on the inside :?: so it is never locked. still flubber never managed to climb out.

the hatch is about 20 cm above waterlevel and I think that with no grip for his suckers flubber just can't open it. if he somehow could get grip on the surface, we'd probably already found him on the floor somewhere.

of course this is theory. if he is persistent enough, maybe he'll prove me wrong some day. hope he doesn't

ant
Feb 11th, 2005, 12:19am
Me has a solution to keeping an octo in......velcro... put it around top of tank rim and he shall stay in. This works...right? :hmm:

Nancy
Feb 11th, 2005, 12:19pm
Hi Ant,

Well, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. You have to have a lot of velcro (or artificial turf) to make sure that the octo can't reach above it when fully grown. For a bimac, this might be as much as two feet above the water. There are some other considerations too, discussed in past posts. In the end, you have to lock down your tank!

Nancy

DHyslop
Feb 11th, 2005, 03:41pm
My housemates and I were joking about keeping a blue ring octopus in an escape-proof setup: the aquarium would be sealed and submerged in a larger aquarium full of a concentrated copper solution.

I imagine this would work well unless the octopus could come up with some sort of environmental suit.

chrono_war01
Feb 21st, 2005, 07:46am
I imagine this would work well unless the octopus could come up with some sort of environmental suit.

That's why we make 4 pairs of long elastic mittens. :wink:
Then we make them some nice warm hats, mantle cover and um.. ah..oh.. and a underwater radio and some Neil Daimond records.