View Full Version : Octopi, Octopuses, or Octopodes


Spence24
Jan 2nd, 2008, 07:53pm
No matter how you say it, it all means the same thing. But, just because I think this is a rather interesting subject I think I will try to give my (mostly borrowed opinion). This subject came up about a year ago when I got into an argument with a biology teacher about the word Octopuses being incorrect. The seemingly most popular form of Octopi is actually they most Incorrect way to say it. The word Octopi would assume that the word octopus is derived from a Latin noun, which is incorrect the word is actually Latinized Greek from oktopous making the correct plural Octopodes?? Hmmm... I have seen alot of discussion on this and most end up saying that either Octipi or Octipuses or even both are correct. But thats just not true. I will have to admit I was wrong, even though Octopuses is still commonely considered "more" correct than Octipi it is still incorrect. So for all you saying Octipi OR Octopuses stop, your wrong, haha. That said, let the criticism's fly.

ryan

tonmo
Jan 2nd, 2008, 08:12pm
:smile:

I agree that all are "acceptable", but I've chosen a course on TONMO.com that "octopuses" is what we recognize as being the "correct" treatment. And I forget why! I guess it's because, as the Site FAQ says, it's an "English" word, not Latin.

It seems I've used up my quotes quota on this post... :rolleyes:

monty
Jan 2nd, 2008, 08:15pm
If you do a forum search for "octopodes" you can see that much sound and fury has already been expended on this topic.

I favor a balance between practicality and authenticity, so I've chosen to avoid "octopi" as wrong and "octopodes" as incomprehensible, and stick with octopuses, satisfying no one but myself. Linguistic sticklers rarely seem to swim against the tide and use "octopodes" consistently, although you're welcome to try. I suspect if you make fun of those of us who don't tilt at that windmill that many of us will make fun of you back, however. :tongue:

Spence24
Jan 2nd, 2008, 08:32pm
Haha, I can always look for a laugh from you, to tell you the truth, I'm a little ashamed as I to myself won't ever say octopi just because of that very fight, and find that I feel ridiculously stupid saying octopodes, leaving me no choice but to say octopuses with a very peculiar feeling of satisfaction.

Daremo
Jan 19th, 2008, 08:53am
I recall reading somewhere that octopuses was being used when more than one species were discussed, while octopi was preferred when referring to multiple individuals of a single species. I wish I could recall who was doing that, though.

tonmo
Jan 19th, 2008, 02:17pm
Sounds familiar. Perhaps that was mentioned in one of Richard Ellis' books?

monty
Jan 19th, 2008, 03:28pm
Sounds familiar. Perhaps that was mentioned in one of Richard Ellis' books?

Yeah, I was thinking Ellis, too, although I'm not certain either.

I remember it seemed sort of analogous to fish: you go to the market to buy 10 fish, but ichthyologists study the teleost fishes of the eastern Pacific. I think it's pretty well established that octopi is sort of a sophomoric construction, though (and I'm sure my 7th grade teacher would be pleased that I used "sophomoric" in everyday speech!)

CapnNemo
Jan 19th, 2008, 04:17pm
Octopuses sounds nicer to me.

But y'know just because a word is popular doesn't mean it'll stay around if it's deemed incorrect.

Brontosaurus always sounded nicer than Apatosaurus to me, but it was incorrect, therefore, no more Brontosaurus.

and...


...PLUTO IS STILL A PLANET!

dreadhead
Jan 19th, 2008, 06:25pm
I give the octopuses octopi speach to almost everyone that looks at my tank so I hope it stays octopuses.I dont like the taste of crow.

Animal Mother
Jan 19th, 2008, 06:33pm
Octopuses sounds nicer to me.

But y'know just because a word is popular doesn't mean it'll stay around if it's deemed incorrect.

Brontosaurus always sounded nicer than Apatosaurus to me, but it was incorrect, therefore, no more Brontosaurus.

and...


...PLUTO IS STILL A PLANET!

That's how I feel about "filosus" vs. "hummellincki"... filosus just sounds better to me.

Colin
Jan 19th, 2008, 07:51pm
Yeah, i was disappointed when i sen that filosus had changed :(

I prefer octopuses too and that's what I'll be sticking with LOL

monty
Jan 20th, 2008, 02:11am
yeah, I can't even spell hummellincki... at least I have a shot at spelling filosus

dwhatley
Jan 20th, 2008, 06:12am
AM,
HOW do you know it SOUNDS better? I have yet to figure out how to SAY Hummellincki and I am thinking my new guy might be one :oops:

Animal Mother
Jan 20th, 2008, 11:19am
Sounds better to me!

Could quite possibly be D. Hope you get to spend some quality time with it before it kills over. I've been wondering since a few months have passed by if the filosus season is in considering the ones everyone got a few months back all seemed to be at their end. Not really a conversation for this thread though.