View Full Version : Bob and Sid, the Bicephalic Squid


DocidicusGigas
Sep 4th, 2003, 06:53pm
This summer, I found what appeared to be a bicephalic squid in Woods Hole, Massachusetts. It turned out to be a small squid stuck inside a large one. But the large one's organs were atrophied and shrivelled, meaning that the small one (Sid) had been living there for a while prior to capture. It has been preserved in a formalin solution, and Dr. Steve O' shea would like me to post all my "Bob and Sid, the Bicephalic Squid" pictures.

Steve O'Shea
Sep 4th, 2003, 07:08pm
I'm just posting 6 of Alex's pics here (of Bob & Sid). Bob is the outer squid, Sid the inner.

Magic stuff!!

http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=689

http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=688

http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=687

Steve O'Shea
Sep 4th, 2003, 07:19pm
Last 3

http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=690

http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=691

http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/download.php?id=692

Steve O'Shea
Sep 4th, 2003, 07:24pm
Just a wee question Alex, did Sid have fins at all?

Tentacular!
Sep 4th, 2003, 08:04pm
That is so freaky! I had to check my calendar to make sure it wasn't April Fool's Day.
Scuse my ignorance, but can you explain how Bob and Sid ended up like that? Are they like cojoined twins (siamese squid :bugout: ) or did Sid just burrow into Bob at some point and take up residence? If so why? how? Its just toooooo icky! :yuck: Ahem... but extremely interesting, of course.

tonmo
Sep 4th, 2003, 08:17pm
totally wild -- despite the good description, I wouldn't have fully understood it without those pics. I'm with Tentacular on those questions....

Gayla
Sep 4th, 2003, 08:20pm
Amazing and extraordinary find, Alex!
Great pictures, too!
And welcome to Tonmo ...
-Gayla

DocidicusGigas
Sep 4th, 2003, 09:10pm
Apparently, Sid just burrowed into Bob- when dissected, it was clear they weren't connected at all. And I don't know how- it could have been during capture, but Bob's atrophied organs prove otherwise.

~Alex

Clem
Sep 4th, 2003, 09:31pm
Alex,

That's a remarkable find. Seems to have been a weird summer for squid on Cape Cod. Loligo egg-cases washing up left and right, free-loading squid...what next?

Clem

L S
Sep 5th, 2003, 02:33am
Hey Alex,

It's so amazing!! Do you know if Bob was alive all that time with Sid as "skinmate"?

Cheers, LS

DocidicusGigas
Sep 7th, 2003, 05:23pm
Bob's atrophied organs could only mean that the two had been stuck together for a while. Had either died, they would have rotted.

DocidicusGigas
Sep 7th, 2003, 05:24pm
Just to test my signature...

Steve O'Shea
Sep 7th, 2003, 06:06pm
....signature works fine Alex ... although it's an interesting choice. Although I enjoy calamari too it's a little like waving a red flag to a bull (online).

We only eat bad squid - those that misbehave!

TaningiaDanae
Sep 16th, 2003, 12:20am
Well, I guess the next logical question would be: Have any true bicephalic squids ever been found, especially ones of the Giant variety? And if any bicephalic specimens of smaller species have been found, were they living?

Bicephaly (or dicephaly? -- not sure) may be rare, but there have apparently been numerous recorded cases in a variety of species: snakes, turtles, sheep, cows, pigs, etc., and many of these "dual individuals" have survived and thrived just fine, thank you. In a most stunning human case, 12-year-old conjoined twins Abigail and Brittany Hensel share an entire body and have no trouble attending school, bicycling, swimming, diving, etc. (And no, they do not wish to be called a "two-headed girl"!)

[FYI, if Discovery Channel happens to run it again, there is a remarkable and deeply inspiring TV special about these bright and beautiful little girls, called JOINED FOR LIFE, which should not be missed by anyone who doubts the strength of the human spirit in adversity.]

Getting back to the topic at hand -- have there ever been any true bicephalic squid?

Steve O'Shea
Sep 16th, 2003, 03:13am
Not that I am aware of, Tani. That doesn't mean that they haven't been reported (such a condition is likely to be more lethal than sublethal, so the likelihood of anything surving to any large size would be extremely remote; then again, how on earth Alex's specimen(s) made it so far defeats me!!!!!)