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Fishfreak218
Aug 8th, 2007, 03:12pm
Hey,
Today I went to the LFS and in 4 little containers they had "tank raised" octo's. I picked out the healthiest one and after looking at him, he appears to be O. Bimac
His mantle is about the size of a large grape does anyone have any guesses on how old he might be? I was also wondering if there is any other octopus species that have blue spots on them that would lead me astray in ID'ing him? Here is some pics for you:
http://i16.tinypic.com/4yjd7rp.jpg

http://i10.tinypic.com/6hg9xf9.jpg

http://i17.tinypic.com/6agdkpu.jpg

Thanks for your time!
-Josh

Animal Mother
Aug 8th, 2007, 03:21pm
If they're tank-raised they probably are Bimacs. At least I haven't heard of tank-raising any other species currently so I could be wrong.
I hate to sound obsessed with O. Filosus but the best I can tell they are very similar in appearance to Bimacs and also have the eye spots, and come from the Caribbean which would be convenient for Florida.

Congratulations anyhow. That's a tiny one :)

Fishfreak218
Aug 8th, 2007, 04:01pm
I doubt they are tank raised since I asked him what kind they were before I saw the blue spots and he said "just normal atlantic octopus" plus thats kinda rare to find tank raised octo's
He does have rust like spots on his body which I think is his normal coloration but its hard to tell since he just got acclimated lol.
This is my second octopus, my first one was alot larger and older. I had him for about a week or two before he died. Where are you guys ordering your food now?

tywtly
Aug 8th, 2007, 04:06pm
aquaculturestore.com

Sorry, can't help you with identification.

Animal Mother
Aug 8th, 2007, 05:35pm
...and he said "just normal atlantic octopus"

LOL

shipposhack
Aug 9th, 2007, 12:40am
If it is tank raised and has eyespots, it is 99% that he's a bimac. My LFS got one in too and someone that was waiting for an octo for a long time got him. He was a cute little guy, and the owner gave him for wholesale ($45). Sadly, I saw that guy today (that's not the sad part) and I learn that his Bimac is dead, and his tank is hardly suitable for an octo. Thirty gallons, anemones, feather dusters, damsels, the works. And he put the Brearius (sp? possible Briareus?) we have on hold until he gets his water tested. I hope this guy has a little better fate since he's older.

Fishfreak218
Aug 9th, 2007, 11:37am
ouch^ that stinks! Im almost positive he is a Bimac
He ate his first hermit crab last night!!!!!! Im so excited to feed him more. Today he is gonna get some gut loaded ghost shrimp. Do you guys think this is an ok diet because he is so small I dont think I will find much other live food that is the appropraite size to feed him. I can try snails but do they eat snails? I was under the impression that some did and some didnt but I cant imagine them pulling a snail out of its shell. I think the fiddler crabs and the crayfish from aquaculturestore would be to big of a fight for him. Im going to try frozen but most small ones dont usually take to it untill they get a little older. Is this an ok diet
Opinions?

Nancy
Aug 9th, 2007, 12:55pm
Live crabs are very good food. He might also eat small snails. Ghost shrimp are freshwater and not so nutritious. You might try small pieces of thawed frozen shrimp - he might take them.

There are many species with false eye spots (ocellus), so this in itself is not an indication of the species. If you look at the Bimac Care Sheet in the articles, you'll find a good photo of a bimac ocellus. It's hard to see the false eye spot on a tiny octopus - you may have to wait a bit. Taking a photo and then enlarging it on your screen may give you a better view.

Nancy

Charger21_SD
Aug 9th, 2007, 01:20pm
Cool octopus. I fed my dwarf octo hermits and snails. I should have fed it better now looking back I know.

Nancy
Aug 9th, 2007, 01:26pm
There's nothing wrong with hermits and snails!

Nancy

Charger21_SD
Aug 9th, 2007, 01:29pm
I didn't know if I should have fed it anything else. I bought two crabs but I held all the live food in my 125g
and the crabs escaped into the rocks. My biggest regret is those crabs. Came home last night to find one picking on my open brain coral.:banghead:

Animal Mother
Aug 9th, 2007, 01:56pm
You'd be surprised how capable a tiny octopus is when it comes to tackling crabs. If you disarm the crabs pinchers it will be no threat to your octopus.

Fishfreak218
Aug 9th, 2007, 02:17pm
haha thanks guys! Ya, I knew of the ghost shrimp not being very nutritious for SW fish/inverts because they are fatty and dont have much proteins. My little guy is eating hermits for now, Im about to try giving him a snail and a hermit and see which one he eats. Tonight I will try some frozen shrimp! It just doesnt seem like much substance [a small hermit crab] almost like "wheres the meal in that?" ya'know?

Fishfreak218
Aug 10th, 2007, 12:02am
Well, I gave him a peice of krill and I think he ate some of it. He held onto it for a while but when I gave him the krill I also gave him a snail which he hadnt seen yet. Once he saw the snail he dropped the frozen krill and attacked. The snail has been eaten now but he is still carrying the shell around, its kinda cute, even though the shell is almost the size of his head.

dwhatley
Aug 10th, 2007, 01:08am
I feed my baby mercatoris live shore shrimp and frozen Cyclop-eeze. They are still in a large breeder net (about the size of a critter cage) so I can keep the food density heavy for the space but still keep the water clean. I put in several shrimp at one time and don't restock until there is only one left. I feed the Cyclop-eeze using a plastic pipette every night (mercs are nocturnal). It takes awhile to feed them (they prefer it highly diluted and will blow it away if it is too dense) but it give me the opportunity to interact with them with hopes that they will recognize the food slave once they are released to the tank. Most nights they assume filter feeding position as soon as they see me (or maybe the pipette).

Fishfreak218
Aug 16th, 2007, 05:20pm
Here is some more pics for you guys! Good News, I convinced my dad to let me put him in the 50gallon tank, but my dad thinks that he needs like a 20g. :)
So anyway, Im glad about that... I'll be letting him free into his tank in another month or so just to make sure he is eating good and to collect the leftover hermits and snails so they dont get eaten. Anyway on to the pics:

http://i16.tinypic.com/4r7q3jo.jpg

http://i17.tinypic.com/4lt28h4.jpg

http://i11.tinypic.com/4y98ahe.jpg

http://i9.tinypic.com/4qpru43.jpg

Animal Mother
Aug 16th, 2007, 05:42pm
Great pictures! Beautiful Wrasse too. It's not going to be sharing the same tank is it?

Fishfreak218
Aug 16th, 2007, 05:57pm
oh of course not!
Haha, thats another reason why its gonna be another month before I let him out of his critter keeper and into his new tank, to get the fish that are in the 50g. out of it.
Also, does anyone else agree that this looks like a Bimac from those pictures^

Animal Mother
Aug 16th, 2007, 08:17pm
oh of course not!
Haha, thats another reason why its gonna be another month before I let him out of his critter keeper and into his new tank, to get the fish that are in the 50g. out of it.
Also, does anyone else agree that this looks like a Bimac from those pictures^

I don't envy you. Catching fish is a total pain in the butt!

From all the pictures of Bimac's I've seen I'd say yes, definitely looks like a Bimac.

Fishfreak218
Aug 16th, 2007, 09:05pm
haha^
It deffinatly is a pain..
I cant wait :party:

Fishfreak218
Sep 3rd, 2007, 09:00pm
So, guess what?!?!?!?!?!
HE ATE FROZEN!!!!!!!!:party::party::cheers::!:
So, we got into the custom of me opening his tank which would make him get very active. Then I would hold the snail/hermit a few inches from him and just sit. After a few minutes I would place it [every time] on the same rock. This time, I took an empty snail shell and stuffed it with defrosted krill. I put it a few inches from him and he actually grabbed it this time but i pulled away [he grabbed my finger as well]. Then I placed it on the rock, took my hand out, and put the lid back on. He ate about 75% of the shrimp and mainly left legs and other small connective tissue [so he ate mostly meat!]
Im pretty excited since it was just starting to cost me [first I fed him one of my tanks whole clean up crew and I was just startnig to buy more!] Now I will only do so occasionally and let him finish off the clean up crew of the tank he is going into. He is doing really well and I think he has grown

drakanorn
Sep 3rd, 2007, 10:27pm
great news :) he looks adorable from the pics.

dwhatley
Sep 3rd, 2007, 11:49pm
Thanks for the stuffed snail shell idea!

Nancy
Sep 4th, 2007, 12:19am
Yes, the stuffed snail shell is an idea to pass on!

Nice pics, fine little octopus!

Nancy

Fishfreak218
Sep 4th, 2007, 04:43pm
Ya,
im just hoping that he lives a long healthy life with me. It seems like every few threads there is one of an octopus dieing.... are they all coming from the same place? I think this might be something to consider as a cause of all the recent octo deaths. Maybe Im crazy but it seems like there is a lot lately... or I could just be crazy and its a random streak of bad luck.
just something to consider
-Josh