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First off, I am not looking to get flamed here, I am well aware of how hard flamboyants are to keep, and their situation in the wild (one of the reasons I am looking into breeding). What I'm looking to do is get peoples 2 cents, and gather information that experienced ceph keepers may have. Please note, I do not plan on these being my first cephs that I keep, nor do I plan on rushing into this, as it is, I've been taking my time setting up the "perfect" ceph system for the past 9 months and am at least another 3-4 months away from having it completely ready. I still haven't Ironed it out, but it will be either a 5 tank system with 75 display, 60 display, 40 sump, 50 refuge, and 30 RDSB. Or a different 5 tank system with a 75 display, 60 display, another 60 display, 100 refuge and DSB, and 40 sump. It will have a bubblemaster 200 for a skimmer, and if necessary, I will also have a RS80 euroreef to go on as well. In both systems, the refugium will be set up in a way that it will also be suitable for cuttles, and will be perfect for putting net breeders in to raise young cuttles.
One of the tanks will be a bandensis tank, another will be a full blown reef, and depending on the system, I was hoping to use either the other 60, or the refugium to attempt to breed flamboyants.
An LFS near me that I know the owner of (and he'd likely be very helpfull in what I want to do) has a "contact" with a supplier in Japan (you must know that their is INTENSE competition between LFS's in my area, often getting nasty, so this is basically all I know about this Japanese "contact") Any how, when he first made this "contact", he ordered A LOT of rarity's, on this list was: giant cuttlefish (I forgot the scientific name, but the type paradox is now raising), nautilus, flamboyants, and mimics. I of course jumped on this and labeled every single reason he should not get cephs in his store, and to date, not a single ceph has stayed in a tank at his store to my knowledge. Basically, what I mean by saying this, is that I should be able to, at some point down the line, get a reasonable number of flamboyants. It is my understanding that the reason they have not been bred in captivity yet, or at least to my knowledge, is that people have not been able to get multiple flamboyants at one time, or something along those lines???? I believe that I will be able to, so my plan, if you all see that it could work, and agree, is to set up my system, run it for three months and all, get some bandensis eggs, raise them, see what I can do, and how I do at breeding them, then, if all goes well, and I'm able to do the bandensis with reasonable ease and am 100% sure that I will be able to handle somehting 10x harder and more delicate, I will set up one of the tanks to be a flamboyant tank (I was thinking miracle mud, some intersting macro's, minimal live rock, but interesting shapes (tunnels, arches, etc) that it can hide in and what not). And when the opportunity arises that I am able to get either a very small (aka young) flamboyant and slowly buy those until I get a mated pair, or if I can get quite a few flamboyants (say 4-5 in one go) and then try and breed them.
I think it would be awesome if I could manage to breed one of the most beautiful cephs out there and start some sort of chain that hopefully other's could carry on to eventually slow or even hault the collection of flamboyants. Please note that this is all idea's, I am not gung hoe on this and am definetly open to idea's. Please don't flame me for this, I'm looking for opinions and words of wisdom. I'm definetly not the best at relaying my thoughts and what I mean, so please don't try to pick all of this apart.
So, what are all of your opinions, I'm probably missing some things, and would appreciate anyone pointing me in the right direction, or just saying no, don't even try it.
Thanks a lot, sorry for the novel,
Sam
One of the tanks will be a bandensis tank, another will be a full blown reef, and depending on the system, I was hoping to use either the other 60, or the refugium to attempt to breed flamboyants.
An LFS near me that I know the owner of (and he'd likely be very helpfull in what I want to do) has a "contact" with a supplier in Japan (you must know that their is INTENSE competition between LFS's in my area, often getting nasty, so this is basically all I know about this Japanese "contact") Any how, when he first made this "contact", he ordered A LOT of rarity's, on this list was: giant cuttlefish (I forgot the scientific name, but the type paradox is now raising), nautilus, flamboyants, and mimics. I of course jumped on this and labeled every single reason he should not get cephs in his store, and to date, not a single ceph has stayed in a tank at his store to my knowledge. Basically, what I mean by saying this, is that I should be able to, at some point down the line, get a reasonable number of flamboyants. It is my understanding that the reason they have not been bred in captivity yet, or at least to my knowledge, is that people have not been able to get multiple flamboyants at one time, or something along those lines???? I believe that I will be able to, so my plan, if you all see that it could work, and agree, is to set up my system, run it for three months and all, get some bandensis eggs, raise them, see what I can do, and how I do at breeding them, then, if all goes well, and I'm able to do the bandensis with reasonable ease and am 100% sure that I will be able to handle somehting 10x harder and more delicate, I will set up one of the tanks to be a flamboyant tank (I was thinking miracle mud, some intersting macro's, minimal live rock, but interesting shapes (tunnels, arches, etc) that it can hide in and what not). And when the opportunity arises that I am able to get either a very small (aka young) flamboyant and slowly buy those until I get a mated pair, or if I can get quite a few flamboyants (say 4-5 in one go) and then try and breed them.
I think it would be awesome if I could manage to breed one of the most beautiful cephs out there and start some sort of chain that hopefully other's could carry on to eventually slow or even hault the collection of flamboyants. Please note that this is all idea's, I am not gung hoe on this and am definetly open to idea's. Please don't flame me for this, I'm looking for opinions and words of wisdom. I'm definetly not the best at relaying my thoughts and what I mean, so please don't try to pick all of this apart.
So, what are all of your opinions, I'm probably missing some things, and would appreciate anyone pointing me in the right direction, or just saying no, don't even try it.
Thanks a lot, sorry for the novel,
Sam